From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Xebar Saram Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] almost giving up on emacs email..looking for advice? Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 20:21:15 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87d1z01hv9.fsf@posteo.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c0763702a1300051ca7bf55 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56111) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNOr0-0007v6-1e for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 13:21:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNOqy-0006HP-DW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 13:21:17 -0400 Received: from mail-yk0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c07::231]:34440) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNOqy-0006HG-7L for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 13:21:16 -0400 Received: by ykax123 with SMTP id x123so68554391yka.1 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 10:21:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87d1z01hv9.fsf@posteo.de> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Titus von der Malsburg Cc: org mode , John Kitchin --94eb2c0763702a1300051ca7bf55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thank so much everyone for your great tips and comments you gave me more energy to further pursue gnus and or mu4e thanks again Z On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Titus von der Malsburg wrote: > > Seconded. Mu4e is one of my favorite things in Emacs and makes a big > difference in my professional life. Its search capabilities are similar > to those offered by Gmail but Mu4e is faster and I don=E2=80=99t need to = be > online. I wrote helm-mu to optimize the search experience even further > (gives you instant search results as you type): > > https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm-mu > > As an alternative to offlineimap, I recommend mbsync (also known as > isync) which is faster and overall more mature and reliable. > > Titus > > On 2015-08-06 Thu 07:31, John Kitchin wrote: > > I am a happy mu4e + offlineimap user since January. Gmail is my mail > > server, and I also check mail by phone, tablet, sometimes browser. I ru= n > > on a Mac with no issues so far. I would guess you could get a similar > > setup on Linux easily enough. I never got a good solution on Windows. > > > > To be fair, I have it set up to only update every 20 minutes, which I > > like, and I can force it to update when I want, or sometimes I switch t= o > > a browser at times where I need real-time updates. Most of the time I > > don't want that though! > > > > I did hack some things to get it more like the gmail experience I am > > accustomed to like archiving, and I did hack a function to remove mysel= f > > from replies. > > > > (defun remove-kitchin-emails () > > "Removes me from the CC list. I do not need my own emails that I send= ." > > (interactive) > > (message-goto-cc) > > (save-restriction > > (let ((end (point)) > > (start)) > > > > (beginning-of-line) > > (setq start (point)) > > (narrow-to-region start end) > > (mapc > > (lambda (email-to-remove) > > (beginning-of-line) > > (when (re-search-forward email-to-remove nil t) > > (replace-match ""))) > > '("John Kitchin ,?" > > "John Kitchin ,?" > > "jkitchin@cmu.edu,>" > > "jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu,>" > > "johnrkitchin@gmail.com,?")))) > > (message-goto-to) > > (when (message-field-value "To") > > (message-goto-body))) > > > > ;; append and make local > > (add-hook 'mu4e-compose-mode-hook 'remove-kitchin-emails t) > > > > > > I also built a helm-contacts completion tool that is better than the > > completion I could use out of the box. > > > > Anyway, it took a while to get what I wanted, but I have hardly any > > complaints about it now that it works! > > > > Xebar Saram writes: > > > >> Hi list > >> > >> I know this is a bit off topic but im desperately looking for some > advice > >> regarding email through emacs. > >> > >> i have tried a bunch of them over the last month (gnus, mu4e, > wanderlust, > >> rmail,mew and maybe other i forget). > >> I had various levels of success with each one to setup (it was never > easy) > >> but i ended up sorta settling on mu4e. the problem is that mu4e never > >> managed to work properly for me (headers were not updating when new ma= il > >> arrived, reply was broken etc) so i had to give up > >> > >> What i want is basically pretty simple. an easy to setup email for > emacs, > >> but one that would work tightly with gmail since i do a lot of mail > >> checking on the road via my cellphone. > >> > >> any advise. recommendations or setups that maybe people are willing to > >> share? > >> > >> thx so much in advance > >> > >> Z > > --94eb2c0763702a1300051ca7bf55 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thank so much everyone for your great tips and comments
you gave me more energy to further pursue =C2=A0gnus and o= r mu4e

thanks again

Z

On Thu, A= ug 6, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de>= wrote:

Seconded.=C2=A0 Mu4e is one of my favorite things in Emacs and makes a big<= br> difference in my professional life.=C2=A0 Its search capabilities are simil= ar
to those offered by Gmail but Mu4e is faster and I don=E2=80=99t need to be=
online.=C2=A0 I wrote helm-mu to optimize the search experience even furthe= r
(gives you instant search results as you type):

=C2=A0 https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm-mu

As an alternative to offlineimap, I recommend mbsync (also known as
isync) which is faster and overall more mature and reliable.

=C2=A0 Titus

On 2015-08-06 Thu 07:31, John Kitchin wrote:
> I am a happy mu4e + offlineimap user since January. Gmail is my mail > server, and I also check mail by phone, tablet, sometimes browser. I r= un
> on a Mac with no issues so far. I would guess you could get a similar<= br> > setup on Linux easily enough. I never got a good solution on Windows.<= br> >
> To be fair, I have it set up to only update every 20 minutes, which I<= br> > like, and I can force it to update when I want, or sometimes I switch = to
> a browser at times where I need real-time updates. Most of the time I<= br> > don't want that though!
>
> I did hack some things to get it more like the gmail experience I am > accustomed to like archiving, and I did hack a function to remove myse= lf
> from replies.
>
> (defun remove-kitchin-emails ()
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0"Removes me from the CC list. I do not need my own em= ails that I send."
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0(interactive)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0(message-goto-cc)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0(save-restriction
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(let ((end (point))
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(start))
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(beginning-of-line)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(setq start (point))
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(narrow-to-region start end)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(mapc
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (lambda (email-to-remove)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (beginning-of-line)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (when=C2=A0 (re-search-forward email= -to-remove nil t)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (replace-match ""))= )
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 '("John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>,?"
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "John Kitchin <johnrkitchin@gmail.com>,?"
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "jkitchin@cmu.edu,>"
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu,>"
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "johnrkitchin@gmail.com,?"))))
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0(message-goto-to)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0(when (message-field-value "To")
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(message-goto-body)))
>
> ;; append and make local
> (add-hook 'mu4e-compose-mode-hook 'remove-kitchin-emails t) >
>
> I also built a helm-contacts completion tool that is better than the > completion I could use out of the box.
>
> Anyway, it took a while to get what I wanted, but I have hardly any > complaints about it now that it works!
>
> Xebar Saram writes:
>
>> Hi list
>>
>> I know this is a bit off topic but im desperately looking for some= advice
>> regarding email through emacs.
>>
>> i have tried a bunch of them over the last month (gnus, mu4e, wand= erlust,
>> rmail,mew and maybe other i forget).
>> I had various levels of success with each one to setup (it was nev= er easy)
>> but i ended up sorta settling on mu4e. the problem is that mu4e ne= ver
>> managed to work properly for me (headers were not updating when ne= w mail
>> arrived, reply was broken etc) so i had to give up
>>
>> What i want is basically pretty simple. an easy to setup email for= emacs,
>> but one that would work tightly with gmail since i do a lot of mai= l
>> checking on the road via my cellphone.
>>
>> any advise. recommendations or setups that maybe people are willin= g to
>> share?
>>
>> thx so much in advance
>>
>> Z


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