From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Xebar Saram Subject: Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 13:01:56 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87r3py5b8f.fsf@posteo.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bfeac0cabc70405175dcc61 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60890) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz048-0002ja-1H for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 06:02:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz046-0007wE-IK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 06:01:59 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22b]:36587) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yz046-0007w4-7M for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 31 May 2015 06:01:58 -0400 Received: by pacux9 with SMTP id ux9so48774665pac.3 for ; Sun, 31 May 2015 03:01:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Kitchin Cc: org mode , Titus von der Malsburg --047d7bfeac0cabc70405175dcc61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks so much everyone for these great replies. i will investigate this further today and let everyone know how im going with my transition :) thanks again PS: Titus, do you think that the helm-bibtex APA style reference list could be user customizable in the future? Z. On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM, John Kitchin wrote: > > > On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg > wrote: > >> >> On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote: >> > Hi all >> > >> > i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia work to >> > manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO >> list...when >> > (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage my >> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are: >> >> Author of helm-bibtex here. >> >> > 1. easy add references >> >> Helm-bibtex doesn=E2=80=99t deal with this because I prefer to edit my B= ibTeX >> file by hand. BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy and >> I need to edit it anyway. It=E2=80=99s not too hard, though: I click on= BibTeX >> export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix >> it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography. >> >> However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing new >> entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex. > > > Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and download PDFs > from a doi or crossref query. > > >> >> > 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good >> solution) >> >> That=E2=80=99s what helm-bibtex was written to solve. >> >> > 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered) >> >> In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags. >> >> > 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected references = in >> > word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie Nature, Chicago etc) >> >> helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can see >> Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn=E2=80=99t be hard to add su= pport >> for that. >> >> > anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to >> > go? >> >> For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex >> >> Titus >> >> > > -- > John > > ----------------------------------- > Professor John Kitchin > Doherty Hall A207F > Department of Chemical Engineering > Carnegie Mellon University > Pittsburgh, PA 15213 > 412-268-7803 > @johnkitchin > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu > > > --047d7bfeac0cabc70405175dcc61 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks so much everyone for these great replies. i will in= vestigate this further today and let everyone know how im going with my tra= nsition :)

thanks again

PS= : Titus, do you think =C2=A0that the helm-bibtex APA style reference list c= ould be user customizable in the future?

Z.
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On Sat= , May 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu= > wrote:

<= br>On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de> wrote:
=

On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote:
> Hi all
>
> i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia work to=
> manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO list..= .when
> (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage my<= br> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:

Author of helm-bibtex here.

> 1. easy add references

Helm-bibtex doesn=E2=80=99t deal with this because I prefer to edit my BibT= eX
file by hand.=C2=A0 BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy a= nd
I need to edit it anyway.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s not too hard, though: I click = on BibTeX
export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix
it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography.

However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing new entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex.

Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and d= ownload PDFs from a doi or crossref query.=C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0

> 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good sol= ution)

That=E2=80=99s what helm-bibtex was written to solve.

> 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered)

In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags.

> 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected references = in
> word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie=C2=A0 Nature, Chicago etc= )

helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can see Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn=E2=80=99t be hard to add suppo= rt
for that.

> anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to > go?

For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex

=C2=A0 Titus



--
John

------------= -----------------------
Professor John Kitchin=C2=A0
Doherty Hall A20= 7F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
P= ittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchi= ngroup.cheme.cmu.edu



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