From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matt Price Subject: Re: Showing Property in headline; generating table from properties; exporting table to CSV Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 12:39:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87k2t8k64x.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122e6bc672d9e051ca72983 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36808) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNOCU-0003QM-Vi for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 12:39:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNOCS-00065Y-4j for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 12:39:26 -0400 Received: from mail-ig0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c05::231]:36383) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNOCR-00065C-RS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 12:39:24 -0400 Received: by igbij6 with SMTP id ij6so14799428igb.1 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 09:39:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Kitchin Cc: Org Mode --089e0122e6bc672d9e051ca72983 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I'm reading through gb-grade and grade.el, I see you do something interesting with rubrics, could you provide a link to a syllabus document with example rubrics? On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:19 AM, John Kitchin wrote: > All my gradebook related stuff is here: > https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/tree/master/techela, and there is a lot > of it ;) > > I have a whole ecosystem built around using git through emacs and > org-mode with my students, which at this point even I find complex! > > For grading, I grade directly in the student's turned in org-file using > functions from here > https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/techela/techela-grade.el. I > define a minor-mode with a keymap to make grade entry, commenting, > etc... relatively easy for me. The grades are weighted by different > categories, and saved as a filetag (not a property). I tend to put one > problem per file so the grade is just for the one problem, and assign > 2-3 of these per week. > > For gradebook stuff, most of it is here: > https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/techela/techela-gradebook.el > > The grades are stored in the student org-files which I return to them. I > lookup all the assignments from the syllabus, and then map over the > org-files for each student for each assignment getting the grades out. > > I will be using it again this fall, so /maybe/ the documentation will > even improve ;) > > Matt Price writes: > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:13 AM, John Kitchin > > wrote: > > > >> How do you enter your grade? I use a function, bound to a convenient key > >> like s-s g, which sets the grade property. You could have that function > >> change the heading TODO state to DONE so you know it is done, and maybe > >> add a tag with the grade, or just append the grade on the end of the > >> headline. > >> > > > > I just set the grade with "C- C-x p GRADE", too slow! I would love to > see > > your function though I can doubtless at least write THAT myself. Yeas, > then > > having that same function change the todo state (to "READY" in my case > -- I > > change to "DONE when I email out the comments), would make a lot of > sense. > > > > Adding the grade as a tag doesn't seem quite right, as I often change > > grades after a rewrite. I'd need to get rid of the original tag. Adding > > to the headline might work, but I'd have to change some of my existing > > functions which use the headline value as a proxy for the student name. > > Could definitely be done. > > see previous email about using overlays > > > > >> > >> I also use a function that runs org-map-entries and constructs a > >> temporary gradebook as an org-table in a new buffer. > >> > > > > please please show us? Thank you! > > > > > > > >> > >> Eric S Fraga writes: > >> > >> > On Thursday, 6 Aug 2015 at 07:24, Matt Price wrote: > >> > > >> > [...] > >> > > >> >> - I currently store my grades as properties of level-2 headlines. > >> However, > >> >> I would really like to be able to see the grades when the headline is > >> >> folded, so I can have a quick visual sense of how many papers I've > >> marked, > >> > > >> > I would like something like this as well. The nearest I have found is > >> > to use column view. > >> > >> -- > >> Professor John Kitchin > >> Doherty Hall A207F > >> Department of Chemical Engineering > >> Carnegie Mellon University > >> Pittsburgh, PA 15213 > >> 412-268-7803 > >> @johnkitchin > >> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu > >> > > -- > Professor John Kitchin > Doherty Hall A207F > Department of Chemical Engineering > Carnegie Mellon University > Pittsburgh, PA 15213 > 412-268-7803 > @johnkitchin > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu > --089e0122e6bc672d9e051ca72983 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm reading through gb-grade and grade.el, I see you d= o something interesting with rubrics, could you provide a link to a syllabu= s document with example rubrics?

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:19 AM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
All my gradebook related stuff is here:
https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/tree/master/tec= hela, and there is a lot
of it ;)

I have a whole ecosystem built around using git through emacs and
org-mode with my students, which at this point even I find complex!

For grading, I grade directly in the student's turned in org-file using=
functions from here
https://github.com/jkitchin/jma= x/blob/master/techela/techela-grade.el. I
define a minor-mode with a keymap to make grade entry, commenting,
etc... relatively easy for me. The grades are weighted by different
categories, and saved as a filetag (not a property). I tend to put one
problem per file so the grade is just for the one problem, and assign
2-3 of these per week.

For gradebook stuff, most of it is here:
https://github.com/jkitchin= /jmax/blob/master/techela/techela-gradebook.el

The grades are stored in the student org-files which I return to them. I lookup all the assignments from the syllabus, and then map over the
org-files for each student for each assignment getting the grades out.

I will be using it again this fall, so /maybe/ the documentation will
even improve ;)

Matt Price writes:

> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:13 AM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> How do you enter your grade? I use a function, bound to a convenie= nt key
>> like s-s g, which sets the grade property. You could have that fun= ction
>> change the heading TODO state to DONE so you know it is done, and = maybe
>> add a tag with the grade, or just append the grade on the end of t= he
>> headline.
>>
>
> I just set the grade with "C- C-x p GRADE", too slow!=C2=A0 = I would love to see
> your function though I can doubtless at least write THAT myself. Yeas,= then
> having that same function change the todo state (to "READY" = in my case -- I
> change to "DONE when I email out the comments), would make a lot = of sense.
>
> Adding the grade as a tag doesn't seem quite right, as I often cha= nge
> grades after a rewrite.=C2=A0 I'd need to get rid of the original = tag.=C2=A0 Adding
> to the headline might work, but I'd have to change some of my exis= ting
> functions which use the headline value as a proxy for the student name= .
> Could definitely be done.

see previous email about using overlays

>
>>
>> I also use a function that runs org-map-entries and constructs a >> temporary gradebook as an org-table in a new buffer.
>>
>
> please please show us? Thank you!
>
>
>
>>
>> Eric S Fraga writes:
>>
>> > On Thursday,=C2=A0 6 Aug 2015 at 07:24, Matt Price wrote:
>> >
>> > [...]
>> >
>> >> - I currently store my grades as properties of level-2 he= adlines.
>> However,
>> >> I would really like to be able to see the grades when the= headline is
>> >> folded, so I can have a quick visual sense of how many pa= pers I've
>> marked,
>> >
>> > I would like something like this as well.=C2=A0 The nearest I= have found is
>> > to use column view.
>>
>> --
>> Professor John Kitchin
>> Doherty Hall A207F
>> Department of Chemical Engineering
>> Carnegie Mellon University
>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>> 412-268-7803
>> @johnkitchin
>>
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>>

--
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

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