On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Richard Lawrence <
richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> wrote:

> Hi Aaron and all,
>
> Richard Lawrence <richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> writes:
>
> > Alright, I'll try to move to json.el, and possibly change to having
> > org-citeproc generate Org markup in the meantime.
>
> Just a heads up: I've pushed some changes to my branch of Org to make
> org-cite use json.el, and to add a basic Org format writer to
> org-citeproc.
>
> I have not made any other changes to org-cite to use the Org formatted
> output from org-citeproc, though, as I believe doing this properly will
> involve parsing the output and inserting it into Org's exporter's parse
> tree (to accommodate the bibliography and note-based styles).  I won't
> have time to work on that this week, but I'll come back to it.
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
> Hi Richard et al,

I'm wondering what kind of work is required to make use of org-cite and
org-citeproc at present. In particular, I'm wondering what kinds of changes
I'll need to make to my current setup, and whether it's worthwhile to use
my ultra-slow coding skills to create whatever glue is still necessary.

Here's my setup at present:

I currently use Zotero for most of my bibliography management; it's
relatively easy to get zotero to export a bibtex bibliography (cf.
https://github.com/robintw/AutoZotBib), and I will switch to bibtex if
absolutely necessary.  I'd rather just keep using Zotero, though.

I use zotxt-emacs to insert references in org files.

I export my work to html and odt.  I use this small bit of code to manage
exports:

;; zotxt
(org-add-link-type "zotero"
                   (lambda (rest)
                     (zotxt-select-key (substring rest 15)))
                   (lambda (path desc format)
                     (if (string-match "^@\\(.*\\)$" desc)
                         (cond ((eq format 'latex)
                                (format "\\cite{%s}" (match-string 1 desc)))
                               ((eq format 'md)
                                desc)
                               ((eq format 'html)
                                (deferred:$
                                  (zotxt-get-item-bibliography-deferred
`(:key , (substring path 15)))
                                  (deferred:nextc it
                                    (lambda (item)
                                      (plist-get item :citation-html)))
                                  (deferred:sync! it)))
                               ((eq format 'odt)
                                (deferred:$
                                  (zotxt-get-item-deferred `(:key ,
(substring path 15)) :248bebf1-46ab-4067-9f93-ec3d2960d0cd)
                                  (deferred:nextc it
                                    (lambda (item)
                                      (plist-get item
:248bebf1-46ab-4067-9f93-ec3d2960d0cd)))
                                  (deferred:sync! it)))
                               (t nil)
                               nil))))

currently this grabs a full html citation and pastes it into the html
export, while for odt it produces strings of the form { | Herzig, 2006 | |
|zotero://select/items/0_SKDIF737}, which Zotero can understand withthe aid
of an RDF/ODF scan plugin.

All of this is fine for my current purposes, but I would like to figure out
a more flexible and enduring solution, so I'd like to try out org-cite and
org-citeproc.  But I'm not quite sure what's required, and whether there's
support currently for odt and html export.

Thanks very much for your help,

Matt