From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matt Price Subject: Re: Citations, continued Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:31:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87vbjmn6wy.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87d25rkmag.fsf@berkeley.edu> <54d1bc7b.c57d440a.3c5d.2dca@mx.google.com> <87vbjh284z.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87mw4tk4m7.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87oap7z664.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87fvaibr3k.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87y4o9s5qc.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87d25kpxap.fsf@pank.eu> <87k2zsso3w.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87vbjcoewx.fsf@gmx.us> <87bnl4shqg.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87h9uwwmgt.fsf@gmx.us> <87zj8oqqtz.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87386eywus.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87r3tydswi.fsf@gmx.us> <861tlxn3c5.fsf@berkeley.edu> <86wq3pkxpo.fsf@berkeley.edu> <86oap0l7bk.fsf@berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c368f823681a050eef09bd Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52545) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YM62h-0000rr-PX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:31:48 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YM62c-0007Tw-QG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:31:43 -0500 Received: from mail-la0-f53.google.com ([209.85.215.53]:36768) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YM62c-0007Th-Im for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 21:31:38 -0500 Received: by labgq15 with SMTP id gq15so13801061lab.3 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 18:31:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86oap0l7bk.fsf@berkeley.edu> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Org Mode , Erik Hetzner --001a11c368f823681a050eef09bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Richard Lawrence < richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> wrote: > Stefan Nobis writes: > > > Richard Lawrence writes: > > > > But anyway: Some tool is needed to generate the bibliography with all > > its data - this tool has to handle all these details and therefore it > > should be not too hard to get partial data from it. > > That is true. Some tool does have to do this, and there are tools that > are designed for it outside of LaTeX (like CSL processors) that Org > could rely on. But I really don't have any idea how easy it would be to > make the exporter interact with them in a fine-grained way like this, or > what constraints they would place on citation support in Org. Does > anyone have a sense of this? > > I think Erik Hetzner knows a lot about this -- he has done all that work on zotxt, which involves talking to Zotero's internal citeproc.js, which is, I think, the most widely-used CSL processor. Matt --001a11c368f823681a050eef09bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Richard Lawrence &l= t;richar= d.lawrence@berkeley.edu> wrote:
Stefan Nobis <stefan-ml@snobis.de> writes:

> Richard Lawrence <= richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> writes:
>
> But anyway: Some tool is needed to generate the bibliography with all<= br> > its data - this tool has to handle all these details and therefore it<= br> > should be not too hard to get partial data from it.

That is true.=C2=A0 Some tool does have to do this, and there are tools tha= t
are designed for it outside of LaTeX (like CSL processors) that Org
could rely on.=C2=A0 But I really don't have any idea how easy it would= be to
make the exporter interact with them in a fine-grained way like this, or what constraints they would place on citation support in Org.=C2=A0 Does anyone have a sense of this?


I think Erik Hetzner knows a lot about this -- = he has done all that work on zotxt, which involves talking
to Zotero's internal citeproc.js,= =20 which is, I think, the most widely-used CSL processor.=C2=A0

Matt

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