From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: 42 147 Subject: Re: managing a playlist Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:35:53 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93410c5be42e104d3bbc606 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37311) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwyoH-0002jY-Dn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:36:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwyoF-0005eI-B6 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:35:57 -0500 Received: from mail-ia0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c02::231]:35142) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwyoF-0005e9-51 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:35:55 -0500 Received: by mail-ia0-f177.google.com with SMTP id h8so2320536iaa.22 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 09:35:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Michael Brand Cc: Org Mode --14dae93410c5be42e104d3bbc606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I appreciate the detailed reply, but org-tables is less tidy and browsable than my simple hierarchy of nested headings; unless I misunderstood your instructions. I copy / pasted what you wrote (starting with #+BEGIN) and enabled interactive column view. But aside from a flashy change of colors and borders, I don't see an improvement in functionality. What other commands do you use in this mode when managing playlists? I could very well be missing something here. 2013/1/20 Michael Brand > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:07 PM, 42 147 wrote: > > What's the best way to keep a playlist in org-mode? > > > > I just want to keep a list of everything I like. Right now my format is= : > > > > **** Judas Priest > > ***** Painkiller (1990) > > ****** (2) Hell Patrol > > ****** (6) Night Crawler > > ****** (7) Between the Hammer and the Anvil > > **** At The Gates > > ***** Slaughter of the Soul (1995) > > ****** (1) Blinded By Fear > > ****** (2) Slaughter of the Soul > > ****** (3) Cold > > ****** (4) Under A Serpent Sun > > **** Megadeth > > ***** Killing is My Business (1985) > > For what it=92s worth, a good way for my requirements: > > Since anyway I discover and cherry-pick songs and focus on songs > rather than albums, especially for more recent music, I decided to > move from the common path format =93Judas Priest - 1990 Painkiller - 02 > Hell Patrol=94 to the much simpler =93Judas Priest - Hell Patrol=94. The > album information is moved to _optional_ properties. It allows to add > songs much quicker, without losing the time to find out the album > year, name and track only to be able to insert the new song into the > right path. > > The songs are in alphabetical order of its title. Album information > can be left empty and if added later doesn=92t disturb the song=92s path > and the ordering. I put up with the resulting scattering of albums. > Should I care about this in a rare case of a complete album, a > playlist for the album is perfect. E. g. M3U. Most of the times I have > very few songs per album, often only one. > > Songs released more than once like in Best Of albums are not > duplicated. Case by case the properties for the album may be left > empty or contain the first released, the acquired or even several > albums e. g. concatenated in the field value. No concerns anymore also > on how to resolve this with the common path format and with complete > albums. > > how the interactive column view in the buffer (C-c C-x C-c) looks like: > #+BEGIN: columnview > | artist - title | * | year | album | tr | > |--------------------------------------+---+------+-------------+----| > | * Judas Priest | | | | | > | *** Between the Hammer and the Anvil | 1 | 1990 | Painkiller | 07 | > | *** Come and Get It | 5 | 1988 | Ram It Down | 04 | > | *** Hell Patrol | 4 | 1990 | Painkiller | 02 | > | * Lou Reed | | | | | > | *** Perfect Day | | | | | > | * The Jolly Boys | | | | | > | *** Perfect Day | 3 | | | | > #+END: > > file content: > #+STARTUP: odd > #+COLUMNS: %30ITEM(artist - title) %1rating(*) %4year %20album %2track(tr= ) > * Judas Priest > - [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_Priest]] > - [[http://www.judaspriest.com]] > - bla bla > *** Between the Hammer and the Anvil > :PROPERTIES: > :rating: 1 > :year: 1990 > :album: Painkiller > :track: 07 > :END: > - [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYcte4mmN8l4]] > *** Come and Get It > :PROPERTIES: > :rating: 5 > :year: 1988 > :album: Ram It Down > :track: 04 > :END: > *** Hell Patrol > :PROPERTIES: > :rating: 4 > :year: 1990 > :album: Painkiller > :track: 02 > :END: > * Lou Reed > *** Perfect Day > :PROPERTIES: > :ID: d25f4624-7c1d-40b3-8f53-5175696d4254 > :END: > - [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Day_(Lou_Reed_song)]] > - covered by: > - Patti Smith > - The Jolly Boys: [[id:0a4045c5-428f-4ffd-9e90-ed2558355d11]] > - for more cover versions see > [[ > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Day_(Lou_Reed_song)#Other_versions]] > * The Jolly Boys > *** Perfect Day > :PROPERTIES: > :ID: 0a4045c5-428f-4ffd-9e90-ed2558355d11 > :rating: 3 > :discovered: [2010-09-30 Thu] > :END: > - covers Lou Reed: [[id:d25f4624-7c1d-40b3-8f53-5175696d4254]] > - [[file:/podcasts/radio_station/music_show/2010-09-29.mp3::01:09:43]= ] > (this link starts the podcast MP3 file at the position where the > song was played) > - bla bla > > Michael > --14dae93410c5be42e104d3bbc606 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I appreciate the detailed reply, but org-tables is less tidy and browsable<= br>than my simple hierarchy of nested headings; unless I misunderstood your=
instructions. I copy / pasted what you wrote (starting with #+BEGIN) an= d
enabled interactive column view. But aside from a flashy change of colorsand borders, I don't see an improvement in functionality. What other<= br>commands do you use in this mode when managing playlists? I could very w= ell
be missing something here.


2013/1/20 = Michael Brand <michael.ch.brand@gmail.com>
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:07 PM, 42= 147 <aeuster@gmail.com> wro= te:
> What's the best way to keep a playlist in org-mode?
>
> I just want to keep a list of everything I like. Right now my format i= s:
>
> **** Judas Priest
> ***** Painkiller (1990)
> ****** (2) Hell Patrol
> ****** (6) Night Crawler
> ****** (7) Between the Hammer and the Anvil
> **** At The Gates
> ***** Slaughter of the Soul (1995)
> ****** (1) Blinded By Fear
> ****** (2) Slaughter of the Soul
> ****** (3) Cold
> ****** (4) Under A Serpent Sun
> **** Megadeth
> ***** Killing is My Business (1985)

For what it=92s worth, a good way for my requirements:

Since anyway I discover and cherry-pick songs and focus on songs
rather than albums, especially for more recent music, I decided to
move from the common path format =93Judas Priest - 1990 Painkiller - 02
Hell Patrol=94 to the much simpler =93Judas Priest - Hell Patrol=94. The album information is moved to _optional_ properties. It allows to add
songs much quicker, without losing the time to find out the album
year, name and track only to be able to insert the new song into the
right path.

The songs are in alphabetical order of its title. Album information
can be left empty and if added later doesn=92t disturb the song=92s path and the ordering. I put up with the resulting scattering of albums.
Should I care about this in a rare case of a complete album, a
playlist for the album is perfect. E. g. M3U. Most of the times I have
very few songs per album, often only one.

Songs released more than once like in Best Of albums are not
duplicated. Case by case the properties for the album may be left
empty or contain the first released, the acquired or even several
albums e. g. concatenated in the field value. No concerns anymore also
on how to resolve this with the common path format and with complete
albums.

how the interactive column view in the buffer (C-c C-x C-c) looks like:
#+BEGIN: columnview
| artist - title =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | * | year | a= lbum =A0 =A0 =A0 | tr |
|--------------------------------------+---+------+-------------+----|
| * Judas Priest =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 | =A0 = =A0 =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
| *** Between the Hammer and the Anvil | 1 | 1990 | Painkiller =A0| 07 | | *** Come and Get It =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| 5 | 1988 | Ram I= t Down | 04 |
| *** Hell Patrol =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| 4 | 1990 | P= ainkiller =A0| 02 |
| * Lou Reed =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 | = =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
| *** Perfect Day =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| =A0 | =A0 = =A0 =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
| * The Jolly Boys =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 | =A0 =A0 = =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
| *** Perfect Day =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0| 3 | =A0 =A0 = =A0| =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0|
#+END:

file content:
#+STARTUP: odd
#+COLUMNS: %30ITEM(artist - title) %1rating(*) %4year %20album %2track(tr)<= br> * Judas Priest
=A0 - [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_Priest]]
=A0 - [[http://www= .judaspriest.com]]
=A0 - bla bla
*** Between the Hammer and the Anvil
=A0 =A0 :PROPERTIES:
=A0 =A0 :rating: =A0 1
=A0 =A0 :year: =A0 =A0 1990
=A0 =A0 :album: =A0 =A0Painkiller
=A0 =A0 :track: =A0 =A007
=A0 =A0 :END:
=A0 =A0 - [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYcte4mmN8l4]]
*** Come and Get It
=A0 =A0 :PROPERTIES:
=A0 =A0 :rating: =A0 5
=A0 =A0 :year: =A0 =A0 1988
=A0 =A0 :album: =A0 =A0Ram It Down
=A0 =A0 :track: =A0 =A004
=A0 =A0 :END:
*** Hell Patrol
=A0 =A0 :PROPERTIES:
=A0 =A0 :rating: =A0 4
=A0 =A0 :year: =A0 =A0 1990
=A0 =A0 :album: =A0 =A0Painkiller
=A0 =A0 :track: =A0 =A002
=A0 =A0 :END:
* Lou Reed
*** Perfect Day
=A0 =A0 :PROPERTIES:
=A0 =A0 :ID: =A0 =A0 =A0 d25f4624-7c1d-40b3-8f53-5175696d4254
=A0 =A0 :END:
=A0 =A0 - [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Day_(Lou_Reed_= song)]]
=A0 =A0 - covered by:
=A0 =A0 =A0 - Patti Smith
=A0 =A0 =A0 - The Jolly Boys: [[id:0a4045c5-428f-4ffd-9e90-ed2558355d11]] =A0 =A0 =A0 - for more cover versions see
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P= erfect_Day_(Lou_Reed_song)#Other_versions]]
* The Jolly Boys
*** Perfect Day
=A0 =A0 :PROPERTIES:
=A0 =A0 :ID: =A0 =A0 =A0 0a4045c5-428f-4ffd-9e90-ed2558355d11
=A0 =A0 :rating: =A0 3
=A0 =A0 :discovered: [2010-09-30 Thu]
=A0 =A0 :END:
=A0 =A0 - covers Lou Reed: [[id:d25f4624-7c1d-40b3-8f53-5175696d4254]]
=A0 =A0 - [[file:/podcasts/radio_station/music_show/2010-09-29.mp3::01:09:4= 3]]
=A0 =A0 =A0 (this link starts the podcast MP3 file at the position where th= e
=A0 =A0 =A0 song was played)
=A0 =A0 - bla bla

Michael

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