+1 (keep it in)

On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Xebar Saram <zeltakc@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1 for keeping it in
>
> i often debug my org based init config by launching emacs -Q and its great
> to have org built in for that :)
>
> Z
>
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> +1.
>>
>> (= Keep it in.)
>>
>> Yours,
>> Christian
>>
>> Carsten Dominik writes:
>>
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs.  It took a lot of work to get it
>> > in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install
>> > packages.  For a newbie to get to Emacs and to be able to open a .org
>> file
>> > is a big plus.  So my vote goes toward keeping it in.
>> >
>> > Carsten
>> >
>> > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:22 AM, <aaermolov@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> 2 cents from me...
>> >>
>> >> Besides I continuously see many users praising Emacs just for Org
>> >> presence (they even may be completely non-technical users), I'm
>> >> personally think Org may be removed from Emacs distribution because:
>> >>
>> >> 1) all Reuben's argument seems sane;
>> >> 2) there are situations when someone wants particular version of Org,
>> >>    and it may be not tne one bundled with Emacs. In this case someone
>> >>    should perform extra steps to ensure things are going the right way.
>> >>    When Org will be available only from ELPA, it will be SPOT for such
>> >> cases.
>> >>
>> >> Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > Now that Emacs has had package.el for some years, and Org is
>> installable
>> >> > directly from GNU ELPA, would it be a good idea to remove Org from
>> >> Emacs's
>> >> > source repository?
>> >> >
>> >> > The current situation is left over from before Emacs had package.el,
>> and
>> >> I
>> >> > see no compelling reason to keep it. Org is too big and distinct to
>> be
>> >> > swallowed by Emacs; it doesn't make much sense to keep its current
>> >> half-in,
>> >> > half-out state; so logically it seems sensible to take it out.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am asking this question from an Org point of view; I will ask the
>> Emacs
>> >> > maintainers separately for their perspective.
>> >> >
>> >> > I think it would benefit Emacs too, as there would be less code to
>> >> maintain
>> >> > (even though Org is quasi-external at present, it still has to build
>> >> > successfully as part of an Emacs build), and the Emacs distribution
>> would
>> >> > be slimmer for non-Org users.
>> >> >
>> >> > Of course, Emacs "distributions" would still be able to include Org
>> >> > out-of-the box if they wished.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > http://rrt.sc3d.org
>> >>
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