From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Feiming Chen Subject: Re: Help with sharing emacs-org presentation Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 22:30:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h8h2vcvr.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002740900579b970b8" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38901) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gIliA-0003jj-Aa for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 22:31:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gIli6-0000W7-Nf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 22:30:54 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-x52b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::52b]:40040) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gIli5-00009S-JG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 22:30:50 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-x52b.google.com with SMTP id z12-v6so3222404edp.7 for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2018 19:30:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87h8h2vcvr.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --0000000000002740900579b970b8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks, Jens, for your comment! I understand your point of view! My point is that Org mode is not ubiquitous and most people (esp. non-programmers) do not use emacs. But I do concur that Org mode is great for collaboration IF a team can agree to using it. Thanks for your interesting references! I am glad to learn about "single source" and OER. Your OER material looks fascinating: I don't know that .org file can be rendered instantaneously as HTML on GitLab. ~ Feiming On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 2:39 AM Jens Lechtenboerger < lechten@wi.uni-muenster.de> wrote: > On 2018-10-25, Feiming Chen wrote: > > > I gave a talk on emacs-org in a local workshop (Government Advances > > in Statistical Programming) in Washington D.C. yesterday. I'd like to > > share the slides and org source file with the community (see attached). > > Thanks for sharing! > > I wonder why you stress the following: > - Not good for collaborative use (unlike Microsoft Office). > - Good for private, non-collaborative use. > > My view is the opposite: Org mode is excellent for collaboration as > it is plain text, suitable for diff/merge in Git repositories. > Thanks to the separation of contents from style, > cross-organizational collaboration is possible, which I find *very* > hard with any office tool: Changing a document master leads to all > kinds of layout destruction. Switching to a different corporate > identity is just hard with what-you-see-is-what-you-get tools. > > In contrast, Org mode can be a basis for what is called Single > Sourcing [1] in the context of technical writing. > > You can see my approach towards Open Educational Resources with Org > mode at [2]. > > Best wishes > Jens > > [1] http://rockley.com/articles/Single_Sourcing_and_Technology.pdf > [2] https://gitlab.com/oer/OS > --0000000000002740900579b970b8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks, Jens, for your comment!=C2=A0 I underst= and your point of view!=C2=A0 My point is that Org mode is not ubiquitous a= nd most people (esp. non-programmers) do not use emacs.=C2=A0 =C2=A0But I d= o concur that Org mode is=C2=A0 great for collaboration IF a team can agree= to using it.=C2=A0=C2=A0

Thanks for y= our interesting references!=C2=A0 I am glad to learn about "single sou= rce" and OER.=C2=A0 Your OER material looks fascinating: I don't k= now that .org file can be rendered instantaneously as HTML on GitLab.=C2=A0=

~ Feiming

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On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 a= t 2:39 AM Jens Lechtenboerger <lechten@wi.uni-muenster.de> wrote:
On 2018-10-25, Feiming Chen wrote:

> I gave a talk on emacs-org in a local workshop (Government Advances > in Statistical Programming) in Washington D.C. yesterday.=C2=A0 I'= d like to
> share the slides and org source file with the community (see attached)= .

Thanks for sharing!

I wonder why you stress the following:
- Not good for collaborative use (unlike Microsoft Office).
- Good for private, non-collaborative use.

My view is the opposite: Org mode is excellent for collaboration as
it is plain text, suitable for diff/merge in Git repositories.
Thanks to the separation of contents from style,
cross-organizational collaboration is possible, which I find *very*
hard with any office tool:=C2=A0 Changing a document master leads to all kinds of layout destruction.=C2=A0 Switching to a different corporate
identity is just hard with what-you-see-is-what-you-get tools.

In contrast, Org mode can be a basis for what is called Single
Sourcing [1] in the context of technical writing.

You can see my approach towards Open Educational Resources with Org
mode at [2].

Best wishes
Jens

[1] http://rockley.com/articles/Single= _Sourcing_and_Technology.pdf
[2] https://gitlab.com/oer/OS
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