Re: Emacs-orgmode Digest, Vol 158, Issue 9

* Re: Emacs-orgmode Digest, Vol 158, Issue 9
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@ 2019-04-09 19:24 ` Daryl Manning
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Gregor,

First off, thank you for the Org Add note. I am embarrassed I did not know
about it, it is *exactly* what I want. Thanks! I will add it into a blog
post on my workflow when I go over contact management since I have to
admit, I googled quite a bit to find something and did not run across
org-add note until you mentioned it. Thank you.

As for Chase and Gave on my TODO states, these were originally WAIT and
GAVE for tasks I needed to chase people - I manage a large team that is
cross company so have numerous stakeholders and often off a mail or other
task have to chase someone for something they were either supposed to get
to me to make one of my deadlines or something else I need to make sure is
progressing or actually happened. I assign a deadline to that wait state
after I've executed something.

Subtly different is when I delegate something completely to one of my
reports (or another VP/ BU Head), and I give that a GAVE delegated state
with a DEADLINE on it in order to follow up or expect something being done.
The idea there is that I followup at that time expectint the thing to be
done or as a check-in towards an agreed completion date. It also helps when
I go over my 1:1s with them to understand what is on their plate.

I was going to try to use org-habit as you suggest so interested in greater
detail around rthe "clumsines you mention. I often use week tags ie. 'w15'
being this week, so that I can add that to some more random or automated
followups since it is a matter of making sure I do ping someone once in a
while rather than specific scheduled things. So, record a note, CTRL-c-q
the tag from the contact week like w15 to w19 or such and then it shows up
in the org-super-agenda-view I crafted on my weekly todo tasks rather than
a specific deadline or such. Do you think that  may work less clumisnly
than org-habit? (I know what you mean, I used org-habit in my last run at
habit tracking in org-mode but gave up and started using the excellent
habitctl command line tracker. Check it out, though it is not appropriate
to this task.).

Let me know if you want more detail on the above. The crafted super-agenda
view is what makes this work well since I have it auto sort the view to
give me todo items that are tagged for this week, but do not show up in the
agenda as they have dates attached through deadlines or schedules. So far,
so good on it working, but only crafted the view on the plane on Sunday so
need to see if this will work better than what I was doing before.  =]

thanks again for the Add Note hint! I cannot believe that that did not come
up in my searches on how to do this. Very handy!
Daryl.

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> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 22:46:42 +0700
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> Subject: [O] Logging :LOGBOOK: entries to a heading in org-mode
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> I have org-mode set up at the moment to log changes in my TODO states (at
> the moment, TODO, CHASE, GAVE, KILL, DONE) as well as deadline changes and
> reschedules into a logbook drawer. That's working great.
>
> However, I have begun using org-contacts as an ersatz CRM for myself and
> keeping track of mails, meets, and other administrivia tracking people I'm
> interacting with.
>
> I'd love to have a way to as easily use something CTRL-C-T and then have
> the ability to log an item into a Logbook drawer under each heading name.
>
> Is there a way to do this easily without hacking TODO states? Or are there
> other ways people are doing this to achieve the same goal (I'm also hoping
> to set PING deadlines on people so that I am making sure to recontact them
> at various intervals over time, but still trying to puzzle that out... =]
> ).
>
> Would love to know what other people have done with this that is
> lightweight and practical.
>
> thanks!
> Daryl.
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> Hi Daryl,
> * Daryl Manning <daryl@wakatara.com> [2019-04-08; 22:46]:
> > I have org-mode set up at the moment to log changes in my TODO states (at
> > the moment, TODO, CHASE, GAVE, KILL, DONE) as well as deadline changes
> and
>
> would you please elaborate on the semantics of these (esp. chase,
> gave)?
>
> > reschedules into a logbook drawer. That's working great.
> >
> > However, I have begun using org-contacts as an ersatz CRM for myself and
> > keeping track of mails, meets, and other administrivia tracking people
> I'm
> > interacting with.
> >
> > I'd love to have a way to as easily use something CTRL-C-T and then have
> > the ability to log an item into a Logbook drawer under each
> > heading name.
>
> There's org-add-note, bound by default to C-c C-z, which does
> exactly that.  It even works from the agenda.
>
> > Is there a way to do this easily without hacking TODO states? Or are
> there
> > other ways people are doing this to achieve the same goal (I'm also
> hoping
> > to set PING deadlines on people so that I am making sure to recontact
> them
> > at various intervals over time, but still trying to puzzle that out... =]
> > ).
>
> I tried to use org-habit for this, but it gets clumsy, if you
> want to contact somebody round about every 60 days or so.
>
>
> Ciao; Gregor
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