From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Daryl Manning Subject: Re: GTD and CRM workflow for org-mode using Agenda and org-super-agenda [followup] Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 17:26:11 +0700 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001fbe610588c259c3" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52355) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQ8A7-0001kc-E8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 06:26:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQ8A5-0003LS-Ih for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 06:26:27 -0400 Received: from mail-yw1-xc35.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::c35]:43694) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQ8A5-0003Kj-47 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 06:26:25 -0400 Received: by mail-yw1-xc35.google.com with SMTP id t5so4674330ywf.10 for ; Mon, 13 May 2019 03:26:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" Cc: "Fraga, Eric" --0000000000001fbe610588c259c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks! That's quite kind. Just glad to know someone found it useful. The DEADLINE with an intermediary step would be cool. The only thing I could think of that might make something like that work is if you might create a "subtask" that had the DEADLINE and then follow that and resolve before the actual top level task got resolved, though being a relative newcomer to org-mode, I have absolutely not a clue how you'd do accomplish that (sorry). I'm sure there is probably a better way. =] Rather than using a note, btw, I've found it much more useful to signify delegatee with a tag (so, something like :jones:). The advantage is when you have a meeting with someone or need to refer to their stuff, just sort all tasks/todos by tag :jones" and you know everything Jones is on the hook for. I also generally keep a file for someone - usually to organize 1:1 notes and similar and use a setup like: # jones.org ``` elisp #+TITLE: Jones * Jones :jones:loka: ** Jones 1:1 - 2019-05-03 *** Team Structure and Leads shifts *** PMS reviews *** Martech ... ``` Also very handy if you put the TODOs inline with the 1:1 notes as they'll still be tagged to find them from the personnel buffer. Anyhow, YMMV but that has worked surprisingly well though it does not solve your *actual* intermediary/delegated DEADLINE step. Sorry. =] ciao! Daryl. On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 4:24 PM Fraga, Eric wrote: > On Monday, 13 May 2019 at 10:50, Daryl Manning wrote: > > A surprising (to me, anyway) number of people asked me privately to > follow > > up about my setup and how I was using thing, so I promised I would put a > > blog post together (I had a draft from march anyhow... =] ). > > Thanks for this. Very interesting and well written. It's given me some > things to think about. > > The one feature that I am missing is chained TODOs in the following > context. Like you, I spend an inordinate amount of time chasing > people. I often have tasks that I delegate. I change the task to WAIT > from TODO and add a note that says to whom I have delegated the > task. The original task will typically have a DEADLINE but I would like > to associate a deadline for the delegated step. This is not easy to > do. For instance, I cannot store a link from the agenda view which > would allow me, from that view, to easily create a new linked task. > > Anyway, thanks again. > -- > Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, Org release_9.2.2-290-g300f15 > --0000000000001fbe610588c259c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks! That's quite kind. Just = glad to know someone found it useful.

The DEA= DLINE with an intermediary step would be cool. The only thing I could think= of that might make something like that work is if you might create a "= ;subtask" that had the DEADLINE and then follow that and resolve befor= e the actual top level task got resolved, though being a relative newcomer = to org-mode, I have absolutely not a clue how you'd do accomplish that = (sorry). I'm sure there is probably a better way.=C2=A0 =3D]
=

Rather than using a note, btw, I've found it much m= ore useful to signify delegatee with a tag (so, something like :jones:). Th= e advantage is when you have a meeting with someone or need to refer to the= ir stuff, just sort all tasks/todos by tag :jones" and you know everyt= hing Jones is on the hook for. I also generally keep a file for someone - u= sually to organize 1:1 notes and similar and use a setup like:
```= elisp
#+TITLE: Jones

* Jones=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 :jones:loka:

** Jones 1:1 - 2019-05-0= 3
*** Team Structure and Leads shifts
*** PMS reviews
*** Martech
...
```

=
Also very handy if you put the TODOs inline with the 1:1 notes a= s they'll still be tagged to find them from the personnel buffer.
<= /div>

Anyhow, YMMV but that has worked surprisingly well= though it does not solve your *actual* intermediary/delegated DEADLINE ste= p. Sorry.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D]

ciao!
Da= ryl.




=

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 4:24 PM Fraga, Eric <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
On Monday, 13 May 2019 at 10:50,= Daryl Manning wrote:
> A surprising (to me, anyway) number of people asked me privately to fo= llow
> up about my setup and how I was using thing, so I promised I would put= a
> blog post together (I had a draft from march anyhow... =3D] ).

Thanks for this. Very interesting and well written.=C2=A0 It's given me= some
things to think about.

The one feature that I am missing is chained TODOs in the following
context.=C2=A0 Like you, I spend an inordinate amount of time chasing
people.=C2=A0 I often have tasks that I delegate.=C2=A0 I change the task t= o WAIT
from TODO and add a note that says to whom I have delegated the
task.=C2=A0 The original task will typically have a DEADLINE but I would li= ke
to associate a deadline for the delegated step.=C2=A0 This is not easy to do.=C2=A0 For instance, I cannot store a link from the agenda view which would allow me, from that view, to easily create a new linked task.

Anyway, thanks again.
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Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, Org release_9.2.2-290-g300f15
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