From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Kiwon Um Subject: Re: Incompatible changes regarding link Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2019 22:45:11 +0100 Message-ID: References: <877e3979h1.fsf@gmail.com> <87o8wlw5wa.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87blslw46v.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44883) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1idLPl-0002fh-EX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 16:45:30 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1idLPj-0001t6-SS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 16:45:29 -0500 Received: from mail-ot1-x336.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::336]:43503) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1idLPh-0001qG-Po for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 16:45:25 -0500 Received: by mail-ot1-x336.google.com with SMTP id p8so7074538oth.10 for ; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 13:45:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87blslw46v.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 10:10 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > Kiwon Um writes: > > > I didn't know what the issue in the past interpretation was, but I am > > just not sure whether it's a good idea to enforce that we must use > > such a special character, which we cannot directly see from the > > editor. > > This is because you are using an ambiguous construct. There are things > you cannot do in Org (e.g., starting a line with "|" and expect it to be > something else than a table), yet, Org provides a syntax to work around > the problem. I agree this is not perfect. I understand Org-mode has its syntax. I am not saying Org-mode should be able to do everything we want. As you already agreed, I'm just not sure whether it's the best. In my opinion, one of the great advantages of Org-mode is that we can do a lot of things with plain texts, and here I am just little bit unhappy with using hidden characters to escape something, particularly in a plane text file. > > Unfortunately, this doesn't work either. > > [[https://www.youtube.com/][\[You Tube\]]] is exported as > href="https://www.youtube.com/">\[You Tube\] > > Indeed! I forgot about that: the escaping mechanism is for the link > part. For the description part, you have to use a zero width space, too. > Note that `org-insert-link' (C-c C-l) does that automatically. > > IIRC, square brackets were forbidden in descriptions (and changed into > curly brackets automatically) before that change. Right, that seems to be the only option for now. I may use zero width spaces or other parentheses around links. Thank you for your time again. Best, Kiwon