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From: Allen Li <vianchielfaura@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bug: shiftmeta[left|right] on multi line items [9.1.2
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Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 17:04:20 -0800
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To: Nathan Aclander <nathan.aclander@gmail.com>
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On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Nathan Aclander
<nathan.aclander@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
>
>> I don't qualify this as a bug. These commands explicitly work when point
>> is at the beginning of an item. Indeed, the sub-item may be arbitrarily
>> large, contain tables... it would be confusing to move the whole
>> sub-list when its structure is out of sight.
>
> Why do you think it would be confusing to move the whole sub-list? Why
> would it be move confusing when the point is on the sub-item vs. when
> the point is on the parent item?
>
> I think the inconsistency is unintuitive here, and causes confusion. And
> I think since large sub-items already get moved when the point is
> at the beginning, it would make sense to also move them when the point
> is on the sub item.
>
> Nathan

I think what Nicolas is saying is this (^ is point):

* ^Heading

M-S-left/right works here.

* Heading
^content text

M-S-left/right does not work here.  Let=E2=80=99s assume that it does work
here to be consistent with the feature/bug you are requesting.

* Heading

- foo
  - bar
    ^second bar line

M-S-left/right does not work here.  Let=E2=80=99s assume that it does work
here per the feature/bug you are requesting.  Does it move bar, foo,
or Heading?  What if the text is very long and you cannot see where
you are?

  ...
  some very long text
  ^some very long text
  some very long text
  ...

What M-S-left/right does would be very confusing.