From: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Cc: Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com>,
Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>,
Zhitao Gong <zhitaao.gong@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: sorting plain list while making - equal spc [was Re: [O] About org-sort -> org-sort-list with custom sort function]
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2022 21:09:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJcAo8vUUQgOo7Wr3R2KpkhfBwZoYD=0QRDTGfYwwkFSeafnkw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJcAo8u7uw6=o-6=zrO9Kh_JJCxQxnOx75Wo1MkVO0rirNz8Qg@mail.gmail.com>
miraculously i made a buggy solution for myself only. it might sort
wrong if you have [-] in rest of line.
so fwiw. in org-list.el.
for anybody who is searching for same thing:
((= dcst ?x) (or (and (stringp (match-string 1))
(replace-regexp-in-string "\\[-\\]"
"[ ]"
;;
" - [X] whatever")
;;
" - [ ] whatever")
;;
" - [-] whatever")
(match-string 1)))
On 7/1/22, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:
> i am confused by the custom sorting function for plain
> lists. are there examples? [note: still on maint.]
>
> i want to ignore [-] for sorting by checked. it can be equal to [ ].
> i don't need it to be custom but that seems available.
>
> a rationale and possible interesting solutions are below, but i'm ok
> with anything. current x/X is always flawed for me.
>
>
> rationale:
>
> suppose you have a long list like
>
> - [ ] hello
> + [ ] hi
> + [ ] greetings
> ... [long list]
>
> suppose you mark greetings as [X] with c-c c-c, at least with my
> settings, hello will become [-] to indicate "partly X".
>
> suppose hello is still high priority. but you don't notice it's there
> because you use very large fonts and it is not on the same page. it's
> in the middle. you keep your list in priority sequence. you have at
> the top something like
>
> - [ ] bonjour
> - [ ] some kind of greeting
> ...
>
> and most are spc like that and - is rare. suppose you mark bonjour X
> with c-c c-c. now it is in your face and you want to move it down.
> so you sort by checked. now it is out of your face. but you didn't
> notice that your hello moved down also.
>
> this isn't particularly a bug; it is just that - is part of sorting
> and it is hardcoded to be below SPC [i think].
>
> so hello gets moved down a whoooooooooooooole lot. its place in the
> list is gone. you aren't even looking at the bottom of hte list
> because it is so long. it is as if hello has disappeared.
>
> and this is because you marked a sub-item as X. and then sorted the
> top level by checked. and didn't notice.
>
> so i'm thinking this is a feature that could cause unexpected results.
> [because it did that to me. existence proof.]
>
> and there's nothing really wrong with existing semantics, but i'd want
> - to be ignored in sorting, because of the above.
>
> i can think of some possible solutions. for example
>
> - have something like an x X command that makes - eqal to spc or
> custom variable for sorting with ability to specify '(? ?x) thus
> ignoring ?-.
> - have a command that moves all X to a sibling header so you don't
> need sorting to get X out of your face
> - have the possibility of this all working on sublists too
>
>
> [i kinda want all.... there are more ideas. please do not shoot me
> or say i am destroying the spirit and letter of org and the milky way
> galaxy. these are just brainstorms. possibilities to possibly
> consider, not analyzed to perfection.]
>
> thanks!
>
>
> On 5/8/17, Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> wrote:
>> Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com> writes:
>>
>>> Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
>>>
>>>> The we may not need `call-interactively' at all.
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>> Yeah, I agree that there's no need for call-interactively here because
>>> the interactive forms of org-table-sort-lines, org-sort-list,
>>> org-sort-entries are covered by org-sort's.
>>>
>>> Switched call-interactively to funcall in c1addc825.
>>
>> Ehh, I should have looked more closely at org-table-sort-lines. Unlike
>> org-sort-entries and org-sort-list, it uses called-interactively-p to
>> determine whether it should prompt the user. I've put the
>> org-call-with-arg back, at least for now.
>>
>> --
>> Kyle
>>
>>
>
>
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