From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Samuel Wales Subject: Re: [RFC] Could we get rid of Org specific "mark ring" Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 12:24:46 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87o9lcntdq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87po5rxcgq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87fu6nx93a.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87bmhbx7z6.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87lggew91v.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46525) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1egy01-0000fL-BL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2018 14:24:50 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1egy00-0003ql-8N for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2018 14:24:49 -0500 Received: from mail-io0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22e]:46044) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1egy00-0003qZ-3J for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2018 14:24:48 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id p188so16397842ioe.12 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2018 11:24:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87lggew91v.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: Allen Li , Org Mode List in my usage, the current distinction between org-mark-ring and mark-ring does not disturb me at all. i agree that it would be good to be able to use global-mark-ring as a substitute for both global-mark-ring and org-mark-ring, but ONLY if it takes me to the exact location just like org-mark-ring does. i use mark-ring extensively. this is when i mark manually, or in cases like isearch or bob. it is intuitive and i never have to think about the distinction from org-mark-ring. i agree that some users would expect the mark to be set also. which i think is a good idea, for both global and local mark rings. but ONLY if the global one goes to the exact spot. i do not use global-mark-ring. this is because [1] nonergo binding [fixable] [2] i haven't made prev and next for it [fixable] [3] it makes ZERO sense to me why it behaves so strangely. i expect global-mark-ring to take me to the exact spot. period. when it doesn't, i get so confused that i just stop using it. i don't understand why anybody finds it intuitive. do a lot of people use it? unlike the local mark ring, i have never seen actual use of it mentioned in the community. perhaps its users have tiny files. --=20 The Kafka Pandemic: The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. And ANYBODY can get it at any time. "You=E2=80=99ve really gotta quit this and get moving, because this is murd= er by neglect." --- .