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From: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
To: Greg Minshall <minshall@umich.edu>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Idea for handling timezones
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2021 13:06:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJcAo8v6CwK_=_0dm0Odc9Ez7WR8o3WyFvooH3kAevxiismcZw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <701561.1617475882@apollo2.minshall.org>

the suggestion to change all your tses to utc was not a general
suggestion for all org users or a change to org.  for op only.

but the point about grep and such then breaking is a good one.  it is
possibly not a useful workaround for the op.

On 4/3/21, Greg Minshall <minshall@umich.edu> wrote:
> Russell,
>
>> I would not suggest using UTC. I believe one of the reasons timestamps
>> didn't include TZ information was to keep them short and human
>> legible. Solutions with overlays to change a timestamp reduce the
>> usefulness of the plain text reading of Org (ie: less, grep,
>> etc). Storing timestamps with UTC is really a shortcut for the
>> computer, not the user.
>
> i wonder if this is perhaps another place where "org mode as simple
> text" conflicts with "org mode to solve difficult problems".  that comes
> up from time to time (using dollar signs as delimiters for math is one
> recent example, another is "-" being "filled" into column one and taken
> as an item in a new list).
>
> it's a hard line to straddle.
>
> Greg
>
>


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  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-03 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-01  7:40 Idea for handling timezones shironeko
2021-04-02 11:34 ` tomas
2021-04-03  0:36   ` Shironeko
2021-04-03  7:56     ` tomas
2021-04-03  8:03       ` shironeko
2021-04-03  8:30         ` tomas
2021-04-03  9:26           ` Shironeko
2021-04-03 11:23             ` Greg Minshall
2021-04-03 15:00               ` Russell Adams
2021-04-03 18:51                 ` Greg Minshall
2021-04-03 20:06                   ` Samuel Wales [this message]
2021-04-03 22:47                   ` Tim Cross
2021-04-04  0:51                     ` Tom Gillespie
2021-04-04 16:06                       ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-04-23  1:45                         ` Shironeko
2021-04-23  7:54                           ` tomas
2021-04-03 12:43             ` tomas
2021-04-03 12:47               ` Shironeko
2021-04-03 13:20                 ` Shironeko
2021-04-02 23:37 ` Tim Cross
2021-04-03  0:31   ` Samuel Wales
2021-04-03  0:43   ` Shironeko
2021-04-03  0:53     ` Samuel Wales
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-03-31  2:23 Shironeko

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