From: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, David Masterson <dsmasterson92630@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: archiving speed [was Re: Tips on maintaining history in Org Mode]
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 18:08:03 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJcAo8v3tB2OLo4X_Pcnci7kVAqxZYWzxGbRMxeVBJru_2ON5A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJcAo8uRGXzMxZ_jm_mogGQ+kyR7=pEZf3gAciA_PxX0OX6_jQ@mail.gmail.com>
i have not bulk archived in a year or two, because it is too slow for
me. i am curious why, when appending to an archive file,
append-to-file or write-region are not used, to merely put the entries
there instead of loading the archive file into emacs?
[this is the case even with zero-size archive files; after a few
entries it slows down.]
On 2/28/21, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:
> thank you for your detaild reply.
>
> more below.
>
> On 2/28/21, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> wrote:
>> details why). So, many org commands tend to lag on large archives.
>
> that makes sense. but why would appending to an archive as the result
> of bulk archiving lag? if the problem is large archive files, which
> i'd bet is the case for a lot of users and not just me, then could org
> in principle be changed so that all it does is append? thus not lag?
> like, build the entry in a temporary buffer?
>
> as i see it, having more than one archive file per org file is good
> for speed, but doesn't work in existing org, because iirc e.g. v A in
> the agenda goes org agenda file -> corresponding archive file and will
> miss the archive files that do not have a corresponding org file with
> exactly the same basename sans extension.
>
> i'd be ok with released org either allowing hte user to make
> year-based archives by having all of org recognize them, or my just
> append thing above. maybe i am missing something.
>
>> The lags can be solved in several ways:
>> 1. Reduce the archive file size
>
> this implies to me e.g. year-based archives, which would fail the v A
> test iiuc. thus needed extra code.
>
>> 2. Use optimised folding mechanism [1] (this will speed up org-mode in
>> general as well)
>
> i look forward to this filtering down to maint. :] [i used to follow
> master but too much for me now for health reasons.]
>
>> 3. (untested) Put #+STARTUP: showeverything at the beginning of the
>> archives, so that nothing is going to be folded
>
> good idea. my included-by-agenda archive files do seem to be in
> showeveryting mode already for some reason. but perhaps not when bulk
> archiving.
>
> would it be a silly idea for an fr that org make this an option for
> bulk archiving? hmm or for archive files in general?
>
>>> i will keep in mind disabling font lock in archive files. any
>>> suggested code for that?
>>
>> Note that it will mostly affect find-file performance. To disable
>
> if so, then i figure it's a one-time thing per file so no big deal.
> but thanks for hte font lock stuff i didnt' know about.
>
>> Sorry, the config is actually not yet formatted for public use. You can
>> search for the code block containing "defun
>> org-archive--compute-location".
>
> firefox find does not seem to find it.
>
>>
>> You will need that code block and the following code block.
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/yantar92/org
>>
>> Best,
>> Ihor
>>
>>
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-11 1:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-01 4:22 archiving speed [was Re: Tips on maintaining history in Org Mode] Samuel Wales
2021-03-01 6:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-08-11 1:08 ` Samuel Wales [this message]
2021-08-11 4:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-08-11 5:58 ` Samuel Wales
2021-08-11 6:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-08-11 22:23 ` Samuel Wales
2021-08-12 0:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-08-12 5:47 ` Samuel Wales
2021-08-12 3:38 ` Tim Cross
2021-08-12 5:49 ` Samuel Wales
2021-08-12 5:56 ` Tim Cross
2021-10-17 12:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
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