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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=cB8dW+BS; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.71 X-TUID: olsAmaVmk+nC huh, in exporting the email, i found a possible export bug. here is the original. please reply to this one. notice that a whole paragraph got deleted in the previous email. that is the exported version. dunno why. 9.4 maint docstring =3D=3D=3D org-export-select-tags is a variable defined in =E2=80=98ox.el=E2=80=99. ... If any such tag is found in a buffer, all trees that do not carry one of these tags will be ignored during export. =3D=3D=3D 1) does this take into account subtree export, region export, and narrowed buffers? if so, perhaps the docstring should change. my expectation is that just having :export: in a huge buffer should not affect exporting a tiny part of it. by the principle of least surprise. it is sorta surprising enough that something buried in a subtree can affect the whole export of that subtree. :) 2) org-export-with-tasks set to - nil will not export a task subtree regardless of :export: tag undernea= th - t will export regardless thus basically overriding the export tag feature with the export with tasks feature. is that intended? i can see that it could be the best choice, but could also see it being useful to use the export tag even with tasks. i wonder when was the last time there was a change to this variable or its behavior? i suspect there might have been a change, at least wrt top level todo kw stopping export, but i don't know. On 10/31/20, Samuel Wales wrote: > [2020-10-31 Sat 20:59] =3Dx > > bug > =3D=3D=3D > > 9.4 maint docstring > > =3D=3D=3D org-export-select-tags is a variable defined in > =E2=80=98ox.el=E2=80=99. > > ... > > > 1) does this take into account subtree export, region > export, and narrowed buffers? if so, perhaps the > docstring should change. > > my expectation is that just having :export: in a huge > buffer should not affect exporting a tiny part of it. > by the principle of least surprise. > > it is sorta surprising enough that something buried > in a subtree can affect the whole export of that > subtree. :) > > 2) org-export-with-tasks set to > > - nil will not export a task subtree regardless of > :export: tag underneath > - t will export regardless > > thus basically overriding the export tag feature with > the export with tasks feature. is that intended? i > can see that it could be the best choice, but could > also see it being useful to use the export tag even > with tasks. > > i wonder when was the last time there was a change to > this variable or its behavior? i suspect there might > have been a change, at least wrt top level todo kw > stopping export, but i don't know. > --=20 The Kafka Pandemic Please learn what misopathy is. https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged= .html