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From: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: Jonas Olofsson <jonas.olofsson@apple.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] Agenda not sorting by priority THEN todo state (todo state ignored) [9.6.1 (9.6.1-??-fe92a3c @ /Users/polofsson/.emacs.d/.local/straight/build-28.2/org/)]
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 22:59:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJcAo8uAjXLZx0+fJJttBpVhMH4HNXMnVEj25kxLuMFK7DoEyA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87cz4yxtia.fsf@localhost>

it is all ok with me, but not everybody has personal test cases for
sorting sequence, and soembvody might get bitten by a subtle change
like this which pop up every once in a while.  thus the conflated
thing -> 2 names.  the old one could be deprecated or so, i was
thinking.  i get your points though and didn't realize about the
docstroing.  i have no strong opinion on this; just wanted the idea of
disambiguating out there.  as long as 2 things are not conflated
that's good.


On 3/24/23, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> wrote:
> Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> i find that when 2 things are being conflated, whether in software or
>> in anything else, it is useful to change the name of both of them for
>> maximum clarity, future git searches, etc.
>>
>> thus, perhaps i would suggest somthign like this slight tweak instead.
>>
>>   priority-cookie-up
>>   priority-cookie-and-planning-urgency-up
>
> I do not like the idea of changing both the names. The current change
> will ensure that existing uses of "priority-up"/"priority-down" sorting
> strategies won't be affected too much. Forcing every Org user who
> customized agenda sorting to change the variable values is not
> acceptable.
>
> Note that the patch, despite changing the actual meaning of
> priority-up/down, makes it more conforming with
> `org-agenda-sorting-strategy' docstring. So, this change is, in fact,
> safe.
>
>> if not too verbose.  reasoning: urgency is occasionally considered
>> orthogonal to priority in some philosophies, and some users have
>> :urgent: tags.  so this might eliminate slightly more confusion in
>> principle.
>
> I am neutral wrt "urgency" term. We can use some other.
>
> I do not like the verbosity. Even something like
> "priority-and-urgency-up/down" sounds awkward, IMHO.
>
> --
> Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
> Org mode contributor,
> Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
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> or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
>


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-25 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-19  1:07 [BUG] Agenda not sorting by priority THEN todo state (todo state ignored) [9.6.1 (9.6.1-??-fe92a3c @ /Users/polofsson/.emacs.d/.local/straight/build-28.2/org/)] Jonas Olofsson
2023-03-22 11:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-23  0:56   ` Samuel Wales
2023-03-23 11:28     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-24  3:54       ` Samuel Wales
2023-03-24  3:56         ` Samuel Wales
2023-03-24 11:45         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-25  5:59           ` Samuel Wales [this message]
2023-04-02  9:47             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-03  0:30               ` Samuel Wales
2023-04-03  8:59                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-06  9:44       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-06 23:37         ` Samuel Wales

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