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On 12/27/22, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 01:08:41PM +0000, abq@bitrot.link wrote: >> tomas wrote: >> > I already proposed >> > having one canonical heading meaning "back to that level", say dash >> > or dot >> >> > Now for that to be useful, you'd have to gather enough users who >> > like the idea and use the convention. It's a communication medium, >> > after all :-) >> >> The question isn't only how people interpret their files, but also how >> their >> software interprets their files. > > The second would follow from the first, I guess. > >> Is anyone here aware of anyone who uses a lone dash or dot or comma >> heading >> for some other purpose? [...] > >> To bikeshed the character, dash is commonly used in tree viewers to >> indicate >> a folded heading [...] > > Great! I see you're already in the middle of it :-) > > Cheers > -- > t > -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com