From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Samuel Wales Subject: Re: Org-mode as a replacement for delicious (bookmark management) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:33:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: <2012-06-23T13-52-05@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51764) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SiUD0-0005n5-74 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:33:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SiUCy-0007Fu-3U for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:33:17 -0400 Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:60524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SiUCx-0007FK-RW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:33:16 -0400 Received: by obhx4 with SMTP id x4so4777077obh.0 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:33:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2012-06-23T13-52-05@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: news1142@karl-voit.at Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Karl, On 6/23/12, Karl Voit wrote: > Did I miss something which might be of interest for a bookmark > manager? I like it. Just in case it is of interest, here are some related ideas: This is in the same approximate area as an annotation mechanism, org-fstree, PUA, IPA, Fireforg, persistent marks, Emacs bookmarks, W3M Antenna, Org registry, reverse link search, tangling and detangling, and ID markers, including IDs on anything and unbreakable bidirectional links. What if we unified some of these concepts? We have it work for every Org link type. Org entries can be anywhere in your Org files. They contain the canonical annotation for something. Nothing fancy. We could bounce back and forth between the thing and the Org entry when the thing is viewable in Emacs. Suppose you are viewing a source code file. There is a unique marker in a comment or a docstring. Then find-file-hooks discovers the unique place in Org that matches that marker. The mode line shows a * to tell you that there is an annotation there (more precisely, at least one). A command bounces back and forth between Org and the marker point is nearest. You can comment the code this way -- privately and with the full power of Org. === Or suppose you are reading a long Org entry, and you want to mark where you stopped reading. You could put a mark there and jump to it, and it will be a bidirectional link with the place that annotates it. If you are in a read-only source code file or something else like an info page, you can't put a mark there, but there are other ways to do a reverse link. We could even do caching, diffing, etc. if we decided to get really fancy. Let's update our links and color them by whether they have changed. Where were you in the Emacs NEWS file? Are some of your links broken? Do you have duplicate links that need to be put in a canonical entry? Did anybody update that web page? How was that remote file changed recently? Clicking on the link does a diff and updates the local cache. You can even use the cache when you are offline. Just a bunch of possibilities. There are some discussions of some of these ideas on this mailing list. Samuel -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com