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* FR: allow adding a deadline with warning days [was Re: deadline warning days entry]
@ 2020-07-24  4:00 Samuel Wales
  2020-09-04 14:50 ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Wales @ 2020-07-24  4:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

i think the following boils down to:

i think it would be less error prone if we allowed c-u c-u to work
when adding a deadline to an entry.  in maint it errors.

thank you.

On 7/22/20, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:
> i tend to want either zero or some number [like 4 or 8] for deadline
> warning days for deadline timestamps [tses].
>
> so i set the deadline warning days variable to a nonzero positive
> number as a default.  and then manually add -0d to individual tses
> when i want -0d.
>
> however, manual editing feels quite error prone and it is
> typing/concentration-intensive.  the failure mode could include not
> being warned or even not showing the deadline at all.
>
>
> the existing command has a prefix option, but it does not solve the
> problem.
>
> c-u c-u will ask you for a warning date, but for less chance of error,
> i want an interval or number of dasys instead.  this would also be
> slightly more consistent with the variable, which takes an integer.  a
> warning date requires you to think about date arithmetic.
>
> another problem with c-u -cu is that it requires you to enter the ts,
> then do c-u c-u.  i.e. you can't enter a deadline with c-u c-u.
>
> if those two problems were fixed, i would have no issue.
>
>
> i'd like to know if anybody has any code for changing the deadline
> warning days of a deadline ts to an interval or ndays.  [the minus
> sign would not be needed.]  this would be for new tses and existing
> tses.  in my case it would default to my alternate interval [0d].
>
> this could be thought of as a feature request, but i don't know if it
> is of enough interest, and i figured perhaps somebody already has some
> code for this or likes the idea above also.
>
> thank you.
>
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* Re: FR: allow adding a deadline with warning days [was Re: deadline warning days entry]
  2020-07-24  4:00 FR: allow adding a deadline with warning days [was Re: deadline warning days entry] Samuel Wales
@ 2020-09-04 14:50 ` Bastien
  2020-09-04 20:14   ` Samuel Wales
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2020-09-04 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Samuel Wales; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Samuel,

Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> i think it would be less error prone if we allowed c-u c-u to work
> when adding a deadline to an entry.  in maint it errors.

Can you restate the detailed desired behavior vs. current behavior,
and what problem does it solve?

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien


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* Re: FR: allow adding a deadline with warning days [was Re: deadline warning days entry]
  2020-09-04 14:50 ` Bastien
@ 2020-09-04 20:14   ` Samuel Wales
  2020-09-06  9:52     ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Wales @ 2020-09-04 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

hi bastien,

the current behavior in maint is if you have an entry with no planning
line.  if you try to add a deadline with zero days of warning, it will
tell you you can't do that.  it will not add the deadline.  and
therefore will not add warning days.

you have to add the deadline and then modify it to have your warning
days.  two command invocations.

the best i have discoverd is to add a deadline then go back and change
warning days with c-u c-u c-d ret.  this will add zero days.  it is a
lot of keystrokes.

what would be good is c-u c-u c-d to add a deadline with warning days
at the same time.  this is better than being told you can't do that.

if the warning days for this defaulted to the global variable for
default warning days, that would be useless.  you would be specifying
the same as the global variable default that the agenda uses when
nothing is specified.

so the enterable warning days should either be specifiable in the
global variable as a cons like (enterable-when-double-prefix .
auto-the-agenda-uses), or merely default to zero.

which would give the command c-u c-u c-d something to do instead of
telling you it cannnot do anything.

On 9/4/20, Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
> Hi Samuel,
>
> Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> i think it would be less error prone if we allowed c-u c-u to work
>> when adding a deadline to an entry.  in maint it errors.
>
> Can you restate the detailed desired behavior vs. current behavior,
> and what problem does it solve?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>  Bastien
>


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* Re: FR: allow adding a deadline with warning days [was Re: deadline warning days entry]
  2020-09-04 20:14   ` Samuel Wales
@ 2020-09-06  9:52     ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2020-09-06  9:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Samuel Wales; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Samuel,

indeed, letting org-schedule and org-deadline to accept more metadata,
such as warning delays, would be good.  

If someone wants to try writing a patch for this, please go ahead.

Best,

-- 
 Bastien


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