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Does [cite/locators:@someone-2021]. imply a specific field in a bibliography entry, e.g. pages, or location? and then CSL is responsible for formatting it to something like "p. 42" or "pp. 42-44", etc? And then if you want to refer to another page in someone-2021, then you need another bibliography entry with a different key for that, e.g. someone-2021-87 that might have page 87 in it? John ----------------------------------- Professor John Kitchin (he/him/his) Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:59 AM Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:35 AM Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D wro= te: > > > I use APA (via CSL) to cite and would like to write > > > > > According to Someone (2021), foo-bar (p. 42). > > > > I can almost do it with > > > > > Accordint to [cite/text:@someone-2021], foo-bar > > > . > > > > Any ideas? In APA, this pattern comes up often. > > ATM, your only option is to do "(p. 42)." > > It would be possible (easy?) to add a "locators" style to > citeproc-el/oc-csl as in oc-biblatex, in which case you would do: > > According to [cite/text:@someone-2021], foo-bar > [cite/locators:@someone-2021]. > > Bruce > > --000000000000fb472205cd9c0ae4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
How would this work?

Does [cite/locator= s:@someone-2021].

imply a specific field in a bibl= iography entry, e.g. pages, or location? and then CSL is responsible for fo= rmatting it to something like "p. 42" or "pp. 42-44", e= tc?

And then if you want to refer to another page = in someone-2021, then you need another bibliography entry with a different = key for that, e.g. someone-2021-87 that might have page=C2=A087 in it?

John=

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Professor John Kitchin (he/h= im/his)
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carn= egie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803


On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:59 AM Bruce D'Arcus &= lt;bdarcus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 3, 202= 1 at 6:35 AM Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D <salutis@me.com> wrote:

> I use APA (via CSL) to cite and would like to write
>
> > According to Someone (2021), foo-bar (p. 42).
>
> I can almost do it with
>
> > Accordint to [cite/text:@someone-2021], foo-bar
> > <WHAT-TO-PUT-HERE?>.
>
> Any ideas? In APA, this pattern comes up often.

ATM, your only option is to do "(p. 42)."

It would be possible (easy?) to add a "locators" style to
citeproc-el/oc-csl as in oc-biblatex, in which case you would do:

According to [cite/text:@someone-2021], foo-bar [cite/locators:@someone-202= 1].

Bruce

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