From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: org-ref code Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 08:36:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5dbcc2bbd52304f855eb19 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60703) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WfqEW-0005mO-Ca for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 01 May 2014 08:37:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WfqEV-00067V-95 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 01 May 2014 08:37:00 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::231]:62384) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WfqEU-00067M-U7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 01 May 2014 08:36:59 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id kq14so3566056pab.22 for ; Thu, 01 May 2014 05:36:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Kitchin , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --047d7b5dbcc2bbd52304f855eb19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks for the feedback. I moved the key-bindings for f10-12 out of org-ref. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: > John, > > I've been playing with the package although, so far, only for > citations. A few points: > > 1. Do you have any support for choosing the type of citation entry > (i.e. \cite versus \autocite versus ...) when inserting a > citation in the text? > Not at the moment. There are a few ways I can see doing this. With the existing code, you can do M-x reftex-citation, select the format you want and select the references. We could easily enough define additional formats for other citation types. I found this way of inserting citations annoying, because 99.99% of the time I want a simple cite link, and pressing C-c ] return regexp marking return was too much for me ( > > 2. You define org-link-types. Unfortunately, this overwrites my own > definitions, especially for "cite". I wonder whether this type > of customisation belongs in org-ref itself. This is similar to > my earlier comment about key bindings, I guess. > > 3. I sometimes use biblatex instead of bibtex. As a result, I do not > use \bibliography and use \addbibresource instead. I have > defined my bibliography files in org-ref-default-bibliography but > this is only picked up on initialisation. It is difficult to > update this for a document in progress (I had to locally set > reftex-default-bibliography manually). > > 4. The customisation interface for org-ref-default-bibliography should be > list aware... > > Otherwise, seems to working just fine. > > Thanks, > eric > > -- > : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org release_8.2.6-923-g233c11 > --047d7b5dbcc2bbd52304f855eb19 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the feedback. I moved the key-bindings for f10-= 12 out of org-ref.


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Eric S F= raga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
John,

I've been playing with the package although, so far, only for
citations. =C2=A0A few points:

1. Do you have any support for choosing the type of citation entry
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(i.e. \cite versus \autocite versus ...) when inserting= a
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0citation in the text?

Not at the moment. There are a few ways I can see doing this. With the e= xisting code, you can do M-x reftex-citation, select the format you want an= d select the references. We could easily enough define additional formats f= or other citation types. I found this way of inserting citations annoying, = because 99.99% of the time I want a simple cite link, and pressing=C2=A0 C-= c ] return regexp marking return was too much for me (
=C2=A0
=C2=A0

2. You define org-link-types. =C2=A0Unfortunately, this overwrites my own =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0definitions, especially for "cite". =C2=A0I w= onder whether this type
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of customisation belongs in org-ref itself. =C2=A0This = is similar to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0my earlier comment about key bindings, I guess.

3. I sometimes use biblatex instead of bibtex. =C2=A0As a result, I do not<= br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0use \bibliography and use \addbibresource instead. =C2= =A0I have
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0defined my bibliography files in org-ref-default-biblio= graphy but
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0this is only picked up on initialisation. =C2=A0It is d= ifficult to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0update this for a document in progress (I had to locall= y set
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0reftex-default-bibliography manually).

4. The customisation interface for org-ref-default-bibliography should be =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0list aware...

Otherwise, seems to working just fine.

Thanks,
eric

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