From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: Showing Property in headline; generating table from properties; exporting table to CSV Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 12:47:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87k2t8k64x.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113b9e0604d416051ca7478d Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39005) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNOKU-00060a-RY for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 12:47:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNOKS-0001rF-Td for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 12:47:42 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22e]:36097) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNOKS-0001rB-MX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 12:47:40 -0400 Received: by oiev193 with SMTP id v193so11995810oie.3 for ; Thu, 06 Aug 2015 09:47:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Matt Price Cc: Org Mode --001a113b9e0604d416051ca7478d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Here is an example syllabus: https://github.com/jkitchin/f15-06625/blob/master/syllabus.org I probably misuse the word rubric a bit, it means an assignment grade is determined by a few components, e.g. technical (70%) and presentation (30%) which are given full letter grades independently, and a weighted average is computed for the overall grade. Some rubric definitions are listed here: https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/techela/techela-admin.el#L49 The gb-grade function just prompts me for each grade and then computes the weighted average. John ----------------------------------- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Matt Price wrote: > I'm reading through gb-grade and grade.el, I see you do something > interesting with rubrics, could you provide a link to a syllabus document > with example rubrics? > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:19 AM, John Kitchin > wrote: > >> All my gradebook related stuff is here: >> https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/tree/master/techela, and there is a lot >> of it ;) >> >> I have a whole ecosystem built around using git through emacs and >> org-mode with my students, which at this point even I find complex! >> >> For grading, I grade directly in the student's turned in org-file using >> functions from here >> https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/techela/techela-grade.el. I >> define a minor-mode with a keymap to make grade entry, commenting, >> etc... relatively easy for me. The grades are weighted by different >> categories, and saved as a filetag (not a property). I tend to put one >> problem per file so the grade is just for the one problem, and assign >> 2-3 of these per week. >> >> For gradebook stuff, most of it is here: >> https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/blob/master/techela/techela-gradebook.el >> >> The grades are stored in the student org-files which I return to them. I >> lookup all the assignments from the syllabus, and then map over the >> org-files for each student for each assignment getting the grades out. >> >> I will be using it again this fall, so /maybe/ the documentation will >> even improve ;) >> >> Matt Price writes: >> >> > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:13 AM, John Kitchin >> > wrote: >> > >> >> How do you enter your grade? I use a function, bound to a convenient >> key >> >> like s-s g, which sets the grade property. You could have that function >> >> change the heading TODO state to DONE so you know it is done, and maybe >> >> add a tag with the grade, or just append the grade on the end of the >> >> headline. >> >> >> > >> > I just set the grade with "C- C-x p GRADE", too slow! I would love to >> see >> > your function though I can doubtless at least write THAT myself. Yeas, >> then >> > having that same function change the todo state (to "READY" in my case >> -- I >> > change to "DONE when I email out the comments), would make a lot of >> sense. >> > >> > Adding the grade as a tag doesn't seem quite right, as I often change >> > grades after a rewrite. I'd need to get rid of the original tag. >> Adding >> > to the headline might work, but I'd have to change some of my existing >> > functions which use the headline value as a proxy for the student name. >> > Could definitely be done. >> >> see previous email about using overlays >> >> > >> >> >> >> I also use a function that runs org-map-entries and constructs a >> >> temporary gradebook as an org-table in a new buffer. >> >> >> > >> > please please show us? Thank you! >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Eric S Fraga writes: >> >> >> >> > On Thursday, 6 Aug 2015 at 07:24, Matt Price wrote: >> >> > >> >> > [...] >> >> > >> >> >> - I currently store my grades as properties of level-2 headlines. >> >> However, >> >> >> I would really like to be able to see the grades when the headline >> is >> >> >> folded, so I can have a quick visual sense of how many papers I've >> >> marked, >> >> > >> >> > I would like something like this as well. The nearest I have found >> is >> >> > to use column view. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Professor John Kitchin >> >> Doherty Hall A207F >> >> Department of Chemical Engineering >> >> Carnegie Mellon University >> >> Pittsburgh, PA 15213 >> >> 412-268-7803 >> >> @johnkitchin >> >> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu >> >> >> >> -- >> Professor John Kitchin >> Doherty Hall A207F >> Department of Chemical Engineering >> Carnegie Mellon University >> Pittsburgh, PA 15213 >> 412-268-7803 >> @johnkitchin >> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu >> > > --001a113b9e0604d416051ca7478d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here is an example syllabus:=C2=A0https://github.com/jkitc= hin/f15-06625/blob/master/syllabus.org

I probably mi= suse the word rubric a bit, it means an assignment grade is determined by a= few components, e.g. technical (70%) and presentation (30%) which are give= n full letter grades independently, and a weighted average is computed for = the overall grade.=C2=A0

Some rubric definitions a= re listed here:


The gb-grade function just prompts me for each grade and then comp= utes the weighted average.


John

-----------------------------------
P= rofessor John Kitchin=C2=A0
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical= Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-2= 68-7803

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Matt Price = <moptop99@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm reading through gb-grade and grade.el, I see yo= u do something interesting with rubrics, could you provide a link to a syll= abus document with example rubrics?

On Thu= , Aug 6, 2015 at 10:19 AM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu= > wrote:
All my gradebook relat= ed stuff is here:
https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/tree/master/tec= hela, and there is a lot
of it ;)

I have a whole ecosystem built around using git through emacs and
org-mode with my students, which at this point even I find complex!

For grading, I grade directly in the student's turned in org-file using=
functions from here
https://github.com/jkitchin/jma= x/blob/master/techela/techela-grade.el. I
define a minor-mode with a keymap to make grade entry, commenting,
etc... relatively easy for me. The grades are weighted by different
categories, and saved as a filetag (not a property). I tend to put one
problem per file so the grade is just for the one problem, and assign
2-3 of these per week.

For gradebook stuff, most of it is here:
https://github.com/jkitchin= /jmax/blob/master/techela/techela-gradebook.el

The grades are stored in the student org-files which I return to them. I lookup all the assignments from the syllabus, and then map over the
org-files for each student for each assignment getting the grades out.

I will be using it again this fall, so /maybe/ the documentation will
even improve ;)

Matt Price writes:

> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:13 AM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> How do you enter your grade? I use a function, bound to a convenie= nt key
>> like s-s g, which sets the grade property. You could have that fun= ction
>> change the heading TODO state to DONE so you know it is done, and = maybe
>> add a tag with the grade, or just append the grade on the end of t= he
>> headline.
>>
>
> I just set the grade with "C- C-x p GRADE", too slow!=C2=A0 = I would love to see
> your function though I can doubtless at least write THAT myself. Yeas,= then
> having that same function change the todo state (to "READY" = in my case -- I
> change to "DONE when I email out the comments), would make a lot = of sense.
>
> Adding the grade as a tag doesn't seem quite right, as I often cha= nge
> grades after a rewrite.=C2=A0 I'd need to get rid of the original = tag.=C2=A0 Adding
> to the headline might work, but I'd have to change some of my exis= ting
> functions which use the headline value as a proxy for the student name= .
> Could definitely be done.

see previous email about using overlays

>
>>
>> I also use a function that runs org-map-entries and constructs a >> temporary gradebook as an org-table in a new buffer.
>>
>
> please please show us? Thank you!
>
>
>
>>
>> Eric S Fraga writes:
>>
>> > On Thursday,=C2=A0 6 Aug 2015 at 07:24, Matt Price wrote:
>> >
>> > [...]
>> >
>> >> - I currently store my grades as properties of level-2 he= adlines.
>> However,
>> >> I would really like to be able to see the grades when the= headline is
>> >> folded, so I can have a quick visual sense of how many pa= pers I've
>> marked,
>> >
>> > I would like something like this as well.=C2=A0 The nearest I= have found is
>> > to use column view.
>>
>> --
>> Professor John Kitchin
>> Doherty Hall A207F
>> Department of Chemical Engineering
>> Carnegie Mellon University
>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>> 412-268-7803
>> @johnkitchin
>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>>

--
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-2= 68-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu


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