From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: org-ref for biblatex Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 07:38:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878uql7r7p.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87eh0d62ys.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhu9ofqa.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tvzm859.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zjimnccb.fsf@a-rx.info> <87tx8uc59f.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87ha4tmexn.fsf@a-rx.info> <874n0nknxr.fsf_-_@a-rx.info> <87sio6k90y.fsf@a-rx.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428cae3a5f3804f9bf354c Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41796) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WmLuC-0007eP-Gq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 May 2014 07:38:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WmLuB-0001nX-8B for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 May 2014 07:38:56 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-x22e.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e]:62225) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WmLuA-0001nI-Tj for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 May 2014 07:38:55 -0400 Received: by mail-we0-f174.google.com with SMTP id k48so5330240wev.19 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 04:38:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87sio6k90y.fsf@a-rx.info> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Andreas Reuleaux Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --f46d04428cae3a5f3804f9bf354c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 good news, I think org-ref works with biblatex pretty well now, see http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2014/05/19/Exporting-citations-with-biblatex/ org-ref also makes a reasonable html bibliography now too! John ----------------------------------- John Kitchin Associate Professor Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Andreas Reuleaux wrote: > John, > > thanks a lot, I will try them out, and let you know. > > Never mind about the comfort (or lack thereof) of how to add an s or the > like in org. - I can easily do that by hand. > > Working back ends (exporters) for the various citiation commands seem > much more important at this point. > > > -Andreas > > > John Kitchin writes: > > > I added the multicite commands. you have to use cites:foo,bar,baz, and it > > will export to the format you suggested. org-ref is not smart enough to > > automatically add the s to the link type if you add more than one > > reference, you have to be smart enough to do that. > > > > can you try it out and let me know if it does what you need? > > > > John > > > > ----------------------------------- > > John Kitchin > > Associate Professor > > Doherty Hall A207F > > Department of Chemical Engineering > > Carnegie Mellon University > > Pittsburgh, PA 15213 > > 412-268-7803 > > http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Andreas Reuleaux > wrote: > > > >> John, > >> > >> to come back to org-ref, which basically runs fine for me now, thanks. > >> > >> I am running biblatex (as opposed to bibtex) though, with meanwhile > >> biber as a backend. > >> > >> The biblatex manual is very comprehensible and explains the different > >> citation commands from page 79 onwards. > >> > >> > >> > http://ctan.mirrorcatalogs.com/macros/latex/contrib/biblatex/doc/biblatex.pdf > >> > >> I just ran into this: Having added a few citations to an existing > >> one with C-u C-c d, I have something like > >> > >> cite:foo,bar,baz > >> > >> which gets exported to latex as > >> > >> \cite{foo,bar,baz} > >> > >> whereas biblatex expects > >> > >> \cites{foo}{bar}{baz} > >> > >> as I understand (note the plural s as well), and there are other config > >> tweekings I am doing for biblatex (that I intend to explain some other > >> time). > >> > >> Maybe a switch (an org-ref variable) would be a good idea, that lets > >> one choose: use either biblatex or plain old bibtex? > >> > >> thanks in advance > >> > >> -Andreas > >> > >> > >> > > > --f46d04428cae3a5f3804f9bf354c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
good news, I think org-ref works with biblatex pretty= well now, see http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog= /2014/05/19/Exporting-citations-with-biblatex/

org-ref also makes a reasonable html bibliography now too!

John

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John Kitchin
Associate Professor
Doherty= Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsbu= rgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu



On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Andreas= Reuleaux <andreas@a-rx.info> wrote:
John,

thanks a lot, I will try them out, and let you know.

Never mind about the comfort (or lack thereof) of how to add an s or the like in org. - I can easily do that by hand.

Working back ends (exporters) for the various citiation commands seem
much more important at this point.


-Andreas


John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew= .cmu.edu> writes:

> I added the multicite commands. you have to use cites:foo,bar,baz, and= it
> will export to the format you suggested. org-ref is not smart enough t= o
> automatically add the s to the link type if you add more than one
> reference, you have to be smart enough to do that.
>
> can you try it out and let me know if it does what you need?
>
> John
>
> -----------------------------------
> John Kitchin
> Associate Professor
> Doherty Hall A207F
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> 412-268-7803 > http:/= /kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Andreas Reuleaux <andreas@a-rx.info> wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> to come back to org-ref, which basically runs fine for me now, tha= nks.
>>
>> I am running biblatex (as opposed to bibtex) though, with meanwhil= e
>> biber as a backend.
>>
>> The biblatex manual is very comprehensible and explains the differ= ent
>> citation commands from page 79 onwards.
>>
>>
>> http://ctan.mirrorcatalogs.com/ma= cros/latex/contrib/biblatex/doc/biblatex.pdf
>>
>> I just ran into this: Having added a few citations to an existing<= br> >> one with C-u C-c d, I have something like
>>
>> =C2=A0 cite:foo,bar,baz
>>
>> which gets exported to latex as
>>
>> =C2=A0 \cite{foo,bar,baz}
>>
>> whereas biblatex expects
>>
>> =C2=A0 \cites{foo}{bar}{baz}
>>
>> as I understand (note the plural s as well), and there are other c= onfig
>> tweekings I am doing for biblatex (that I intend to explain some o= ther
>> time).
>>
>> Maybe a switch (an org-ref variable) would be a good idea, that le= ts
>> one choose: use either biblatex or plain old bibtex?
>>
>> thanks in advance
>>
>> -Andreas
>>
>>
>>



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