From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: jabref like orgmode based solution to bibliography management (not for latex) Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 11:56:05 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87r3py5b8f.fsf@posteo.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6d8d965c093505174ea148 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34736) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yyj7L-0000VG-Ua for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 30 May 2015 11:56:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yyj7H-00008Y-1B for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 30 May 2015 11:56:11 -0400 Received: from mail-pd0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::231]:35626) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yyj7G-00008O-JK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 30 May 2015 11:56:06 -0400 Received: by pdbnf5 with SMTP id nf5so13871279pdb.2 for ; Sat, 30 May 2015 08:56:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r3py5b8f.fsf@posteo.de> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Titus von der Malsburg Cc: Xebar Saram , org mode --047d7b6d8d965c093505174ea148 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg wrote: > > On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote: > > Hi all > > > > i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia work to > > manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO > list...when > > (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage my > > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are: > > Author of helm-bibtex here. > > > 1. easy add references > > Helm-bibtex doesn=E2=80=99t deal with this because I prefer to edit my Bi= bTeX > file by hand. BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy and > I need to edit it anyway. It=E2=80=99s not too hard, though: I click on = BibTeX > export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix > it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography. > > However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing new > entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex. Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and download PDFs from a doi or crossref query. > > > 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good > solution) > > That=E2=80=99s what helm-bibtex was written to solve. > > > 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered) > > In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags. > > > 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected references i= n > > word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie Nature, Chicago etc) > > helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can see > Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn=E2=80=99t be hard to add sup= port > for that. > > > anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to > > go? > > For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex > > Titus > > --=20 John ----------------------------------- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu --047d7b6d8d965c093505174ea148 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de> wrote:

On 2015-05-30 Sat 01:20, Xebar Saram wrote:
> Hi all
>
> i have been using jabref for the past 2-4 years in my academia work to=
> manage my reference library. i dont use latex (..its on my TODO list..= .when
> (f ever) i have time..) so for now i just want something to manage my<= br> > references. the key things i need to move over from jabref are:

Author of helm-bibtex here.

> 1. easy add references

Helm-bibtex doesn=E2=80=99t deal with this because I prefer to edit my BibT= eX
file by hand.=C2=A0 BibTeX retrieved from journals is almost always messy a= nd
I need to edit it anyway.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s not too hard, though: I click = on BibTeX
export on the journal page, the BibTeX file is opened in Emacs, I fix
it, and use a command that appends it to my bibliography.

However, I think org-ref has tools that do more to support importing new entries and org-ref combines well with helm-bibtex.

Org-ref has doi-utils that let you add bibtex entries and download= PDFs from a doi or crossref query.=C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2= =A0

> 2. a way to quick filter references (helm bibtex seems like a good sol= ution)

That=E2=80=99s what helm-bibtex was written to solve.

> 3. filter lists based on tags/keywords (orgmode has that covered)

In helm-bibtex you can also search for keywords and tags.

> 4. this one is important: a way to quickly export selected references = in
> word/odf/html based on a pre fixed style (ie=C2=A0 Nature, Chicago etc= )

helm-bibtex can generate references in APA style but as far as I can see Chicago style is very similar, so it shouldn=E2=80=99t be hard to add suppo= rt
for that.

> anyone uses such a system in emacs/org and can recommend the way to > go?

For more details, see: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex

=C2=A0 Titus



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Professor John Kitchin=C2=A0
= Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon= University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803

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