From: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Christoph Groth <christoph@grothesque.org>
Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: babel and long-running computations
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 09:29:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ51ETqAUdey5tuE62fAQ0hNPH+kD_0CfOYKmd_5tbpkk5p-ZA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lhv4ut1n.fsf@grothesque.org>
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You are describing what I see as a need to run processes asynchronously.
We use the Torque queue system for this. It takes care of scheduling and
running jobs on a cluster.
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Christoph Groth
<christoph@grothesque.org>wrote:
> Hi Julian,
>
> > Generally, org-babel is suited for long running computations. Its
> > caching can help you avoid rerunning code chunks. And long runtime does
> > not conflict with the idea of reproducible research, it just may be not
> > very comfortable for the user.
>
> I agree of course that it’s generally a good idea to structure the
> analysis in small logical steps and to save intermediate results. Let
> me narrow down my question then: does org-babel support working with
> tasks that take several minutes to execute? By this I mean (most
> important first):
>
> - Not freezing the editor during the execution of a task
>
You code-block should exit if a job is submitted, and record the job-id so
that you can check it later. Alternatively, you could do this in ipython
notebooks if you have python functions that return jobids.
> - Being able to execute multiple independent tasks in parallel
>
No problem. this is what queue systems were designed for.
> - Being able to interrupt a running task
>
you do this with the queue commands, e.g. qdel jobid
> - Being able to inspect the incomplete output of a running task
>
This is just checking the output files in the running jobs directories.
>
> I’d love to hear about any frameworks or workflows that fulfill these
> requirements.
>
> Cheers
>
> Christoph
>
>
> PS.
>
> I’m using ipython notebooks but I’m not happy with them because of the
> freezing problem and the complete lack of isolation of tasks within a
> single notebook (they live in a common mutable namespace). I think a
> useful framework must be “functional” at the highest level for caching
> and dependencies to be useful.
>
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-20 13:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-17 8:45 babel and long-running computations Christoph Groth
2014-04-17 9:47 ` Julian Gehring
2014-04-17 10:52 ` Christoph Groth
2014-04-17 12:06 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-04-17 12:45 ` Christoph Groth
2014-04-17 14:58 ` Waldemar Quevedo
2014-04-17 15:29 ` Eric Schulte
2014-04-17 16:29 ` Christoph Groth
2014-04-17 16:44 ` Nick Dokos
2014-04-17 15:33 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-04-20 13:29 ` John Kitchin [this message]
2014-04-18 13:20 ` John Kitchin
2014-04-19 21:49 ` Christoph Groth
2014-04-20 13:21 ` John Kitchin
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