From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: org-ref in action Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:56:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wqc4wxbe.fsf@gmail.com> <87fvisbhnb.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87vbrnu5k5.fsf@fastmail.fm> <8761jnu44l.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87zjgzqznw.fsf@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7ba977a0a2771904fcda10d7 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60365) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0g0s-0002W1-5g for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:57:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0g0q-00083y-OQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:57:02 -0400 Received: from mail-pd0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::232]:39315) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0g0q-00083m-Eu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:57:00 -0400 Received: by mail-pd0-f178.google.com with SMTP id r10so5086908pdi.9 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:56:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Xebar Saram Cc: Fabrice Popineau , Alan Schmitt , Matt Lundin , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , Eric Schulte , Grant Rettke --047d7ba977a0a2771904fcda10d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 You may find some information here: https://github.com/jkitchin/jmax/tree/master/examples that is helpful to you. i have collected some examples for various journals we have published in with orgmode there. The jmax repo is what my group currently uses for this purpose. It may not be what you want to do, but there are a lot of good ideas in it (imho of course ;) John ----------------------------------- John Kitchin Associate Professor Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Xebar Saram wrote: > Hi all > > off topic a bit again. im an academic (asst. prof) in Epidemiology and > have been using org-mode for about a year now. i love using org but im > really not very technical at all. it has always been a dream for me to > ditch word and move over to Latex and even better orgmode to write my > scientific publications, writing my CV etc. > The problem is i cant really find a good "for dummies" guide on how to > really get started. again im really not technical so i always give up > really fast on this. > > Do you guys think i should give it a shot (again not very technical :)) > and if so what would be the steps/guides to follow? perhaps start by > drafting a CV since thats perhaps easier? > > kind regards > > Z. > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Matt Lundin wrote: > >> Alan Schmitt writes: >> >> > On 2014-06-26 16:39, Matt Lundin writes: >> > >> >> By contrast, ox-bibtex.el runs citations through bibtex2html, which is >> >> pretty much limited to the "old-fashioned" bibtex formats. >> > >> > What would be required for bibtex2html to take biblatex input? I thought >> > the backend format was similar or the same (as you can tell, I know >> > nothing of biblatex). >> >> I don't think this is possible without some major >> hacking/conversion/filtering. Biblatex has many more entry types and >> fields than bibtex. I've found that most of the older bibtex utils >> (bibtools, bibtex2html) choke on my biblatex files. >> >> Even if biblatex2html did read biblatex data, its output, I believe, is >> limited to bibtex styles, which cannot handle more complex formats. Many >> scientific journals require bibtex formats. But many humanities >> disciplines have more complicated bibliographical requirements that >> bibtex cannot handle. >> >> Best, >> Matt >> >> > --047d7ba977a0a2771904fcda10d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You may find some information here: https://github.com/jkitchin/jma= x/tree/master/examples that is helpful to you. i have collected some ex= amples for various journals we have published in with orgmode there. The jm= ax repo is what my group currently uses for this purpose. It may not be wha= t you want to do, but there are a lot of good ideas in it (imho of course ;= )

Jo= hn

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John Kitchin
Associate = Professor
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Ca= rnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

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On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Xebar = Saram <zeltakc@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all

off topic a bit again. im<= /span> an academic (asst. prof) in Epidemiology and have been using org-mod= e for about a year now. i love using org but im really not ver= y technical at all. it has always been a dream for me to ditch word and mov= e over to Latex and even better orgmode to write my scientific= publications, writing my CV etc.=C2=A0
The problem is i cant really find a good "for dummies" guide= on how to really get started. again im really not technical s= o i always give up really fast on this.

Do you guys think i should give it a shot (again not ve= ry technical :)) and if so what would be the steps/guides to follow? perhap= s start by drafting a CV since thats perhaps easier?

kind regards

Z.

=





On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> wrote:
Alan Schmitt <alan.schmitt@polytechnique.or= g> writes:

> On 2014-06-26 16:39, Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> writes:
>
>> By contrast, ox-bibtex.el runs citations through bibtex2html, whic= h is
>> pretty much limited to the "old-fashioned" bibtex format= s.
>
> What would be required for bibtex2html to take biblatex input? I thoug= ht
> the backend format was similar or the same (as you can tell, I know > nothing of biblatex).

I don't think this is possible without some major
hacking/conversion/filtering. Biblatex has many more entry types and
fields than bibtex. I've found that most of the older bibtex utils
(bibtools, bibtex2html) choke on my biblatex files.

Even if biblatex2html did read biblatex data, its output, I believe, is
limited to bibtex styles, which cannot handle more complex formats. Many scientific journals require bibtex formats. But many humanities
disciplines have more complicated bibliographical requirements that
bibtex cannot handle.

Best,
Matt



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