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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: org-mode-email Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1634734176; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=450UCtEr0lePFsUzIrPF3NvQJ2/Nm3WGWMj1xKz85/0=; b=NbJP+fN+pR8AFmqFqLjEvJ/ruPAxF06U3BG+uT61oJeKelWkh1QAZIvmFhOrF+eOCmx4Eu w+M7hqVAKDYgRlqBT3oZUdwKk4SBTTiyj9flPCwOfbRm/FJtOsNk0e40PKCDbt+1GIrh65 n92jUlIFBBFemDjK+EeAGppd+Hja6RQLQ0RgIsWDdtgsfzoHTsHL7Fx33ZyCRpzy3b+ECl 9KDle/n1IfAnnKzO+jBxnlydo6f4HvjhWu0KVtZ7/aCSyh0x37UQbbFOlxAtzs6a8CU5YB vNPTS+Bc5GdxrZzEWvmYuz0oVbqDYwyrJ70k4rXuVVUbb49jUoTXvY3hQfwvKQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1634734176; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=MWFT9AdcZo0np2uLeUcbrigXUnaRkkSJu0SIzWdZaO74yFkOQw85pFcFGZGlYIY2z+VID5 k014Dmr4JziHrSXquQpcd+jFCLbbFjrb5/YVTiYe+s48sjfxypHoDjJtv2rnMqUQ6KO2A1 8FYxoB9V5NsFRR3r0A7ry0xIcr4NP1fhhY6JDBXNVhUhrLzlZ0XILwiqVUIgWlAYYpT+ZL XnUGJUbbbYZ9HxFdAxgH33xEAHHNOHHitLeBoHglRuOIc3aXiNpTq1oOHhkqm6yOMPg3Q4 m525DJwBCDbLtLXXuWAOiqAtDioQdklR4HsuvSdvuHvDW2hr/QqYpBKFnMujUw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=andrew.cmu.edu header.s=google-2021 header.b="b/YHhDT9"; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=andrew.cmu.edu header.s=google-2021 header.b="b/YHhDT9"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=andrew.cmu.edu; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7BDA31AD12 X-Spam-Score: -3.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: a59wvqyVbTGf --000000000000d2280b05cec8307a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" All the breaking changes are documented at https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/#breaking-changes-in-version-3. You can find configuration details at https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/#configuration. On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 2:59 AM Joseph Vidal-Rosset wrote: > > Dear John, > > I upgraded org-ref to get org-ref 3 and I met the following difficulties: > > - my shortcut to get the list of my bib file did not work, and I have to > use the emacs menu, > If you mean keyboard shortcuts (like C-c ]), you should define these in your init files as described in the configuration above. org-ref does not do this automatically anymore. > > - I did not get via org-ref a pdf file of any paper, > I can't help you on this with so little information. is there some error? > > - cite links with the page(s) via "description" show only the page but > the reference is hidden, > I consider the syntax of pre/postnote in the description to be deprecated (but still supported). I pushed a fix to show the full links with a description for the version 2 syntax. The preferred way to do pre/post notes now is like: version 3 syntax (keys are prefixed by &, and prenote is before the key, postnote is after the key. [[cite:&xiao-2006-size-effec 45]] [[cite:see &xiao-2006-size-effec 45]] These export to: \cite[45]{xiao-2006-size-effec} \cite[see][45]{xiao-2006-size-effec} version 2 syntax still works, (the two key differences are there is no & prefixing the citation key, and the pre/post note is in the description. These citations [[cite:xiao-2006-size-effec][45]] [[cite:xiao-2006-size-effec][see::45]] export to: version 2 syntax \cite[45]{xiao-2006-size-effec} \cite[see][45]{xiao-2006-size-effec} > at the moment, I downgraded to org-ref 2 and everything works fine. > > I imagine that all is in the documentation you wrote to solve these > problems, but I wanted to point out them, in order to solve them easily > and to contribute to the improvement of this terrific tool you gave to > us. I do not imagine now writing without org-ref. > > Thanks ! > > Jo. > > --000000000000d2280b05cec8307a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All the breaking changes are documented a= t=C2=A0https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/#breaking-changes-in-version= -3.

You can find configuration details at=C2=A0https://github.co= m/jkitchin/org-ref/#configuration.

=
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 2:59 AM Jose= ph Vidal-Rosset <joseph@vidal= -rosset.net> wrote:
<= br> Dear John,

I upgraded org-ref to get org-ref 3 and I met the following difficulties:
- my shortcut to get the list of my bib file did not work, and I have to use the emacs menu,
=C2=A0
If you mean keybo= ard shortcuts (like C-c ]), you should define these in your init files as d= escribed in the configuration above. org-ref does not do this automatically= anymore.
=C2=A0

- I did not get=C2=A0 via org-ref=C2=A0 a pdf file of any paper,

I can't help you on this with so little infor= mation. is there some error?
=C2=A0

- cite links with the page(s) via "description" show only the pag= e but
the reference is hidden,

I consider the= syntax of pre/postnote in the description to be deprecated (but still supp= orted). I pushed a fix to show the full links with a description for the ve= rsion 2 syntax. The preferred way to do pre/post notes now is like:

version 3 syntax (keys are prefixed by &, and prenote= is before the key, postnote is after the key.

[[cite:&am= p;xiao-2006-size-effec 45]]

[[cite:see &xiao-2006-size-effec 45]= ]
=C2=A0
These export to:

= \cite[45]{xiao-2006-size-effec}

\cite[see][45]{xiao-2006-size-effec}=

version 2 syntax still works, (the two key di= fferences are there is no & prefixing the citation key, and the pre/pos= t note is in the description.

These citations
<= br>[[cite:xiao-2006-size-effec][45]]

[[cite:xiao-2006-size-effec][s= ee::45]]=C2=A0

export to:

=
version 2 syntax

\cite[45]{xiao-2006-size-effec}

\cite[= see][45]{xiao-2006-size-effec}=C2=A0


at the moment, I downgraded to org-ref 2 and everything works fine.

I imagine that all is in the documentation you wrote to solve these
problems, but I wanted to point out them, in order to solve them easily
and to contribute to the improvement of this terrific tool you gave to
us. I do not imagine now writing without org-ref.

Thanks !

Jo.

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