From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Kitchin Subject: Re: helm-bibtex questions Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:40:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ioamm7c2.fsf@posteo.de> <878ubgn9p9.fsf@posteo.de> <87381klxt1.fsf@posteo.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d8ccd01a29b05190b7ffe Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46935) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6kAp-00047M-16 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:40:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6kAl-0001mW-Tx for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:40:54 -0400 Received: from mail-pd0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22f]:33603) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z6kAl-0001lr-70 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:40:51 -0400 Received: by pdjn11 with SMTP id n11so123814652pdj.0 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 11:40:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87381klxt1.fsf@posteo.de> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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John ----------------------------------- Professor John Kitchin Doherty Hall A207F Department of Chemical Engineering Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 412-268-7803 @johnkitchin http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Titus von der Malsburg wrote: > > On 2015-06-19 Fri 03:56, Xebar Saram wrote: > > Hi again Titus > > > > 2 quick questions that arose from using helm-bitex today extensively: > > > > how does one exclude in the search items? for example i want to search > for > > xebar without keyword "progress" (I want to exclude in progress article= s > > not published yet) > > > > is it possible to define default enter command in helm-bibtex ? > > Yes. Helm uses the first action as the default action. To move an > action to the top of the list you can use the following code: > > (helm-delete-action-from-source "Insert BibTeX key" helm-source-bibtex) > (helm-add-action-to-source "Insert BibTeX key" 'helm-bibtex-insert-key > helm-source-bibtex 0) > > The second argument in the second line is the function that executes the > action. Here is a list of all actions and their functions: > > Open PDF file (if present): helm-bibtex-open-pdf > Open URL or DOI in browser: helm-bibtex-open-url-or-doi > Insert citation: helm-bibtex-insert-citation > Insert reference: helm-bibtex-insert-reference > Insert BibTeX key: helm-bibtex-insert-key > Insert BibTeX entry: helm-bibtex-insert-bibtex > Attach PDF to email: helm-bibtex-add-PDF-attachment > Edit notes: helm-bibtex-edit-notes > Show entry: helm-bibtex-show-entry > > Best, > > Titus > > > > > best > > > > Z > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Titus von der Malsburg < > malsburg@posteo.de> > > wrote: > > > >> > >> On 2015-06-18 Thu 04:32, Xebar Saram wrote: > >> > Hi Titus and thx so much for the answers! > >> > > >> > i will in the future use the github page to make requests. > >> > > >> > "The number of matches will be displayed in the mode line. " > >> > > >> > i see that now thx! :) the problem was(is) that its colored black on > my > >> > black modline BG which makes it invisible ;-) i assume thats an helm > >> config > >> > i need to change > >> > > >> > > >> > "If you don=E2=80=99t want to type these search expressions, you cou= ld create > a > >> > command that invokes helm-bibtex with a default search expression an= d > >> that > >> > command could be bound to a keyboard shortcut." > >> > > >> > that would be prefect for me and a solution to my issue. would you > mind > >> > giving an example of such a code chunk. unfortunately i dont know > elisp > >> though > >> > as john recommended i will do my best this summer when the semester > ends > >> to > >> > try and pick it up :) > >> > >> Sure, here you go: > >> > >> #+BEGIN_SRC elisp > >> ;; Define helm-search with predefined search expression: > >> (defun helm-bibtex-my-publications () > >> "Search BibTeX entries authored by Xebar Saram." > >> (interactive) > >> (helm :sources '(helm-source-bibtex) > >> :full-frame t > >> :input "xebar saram" > >> :candidate-number-limit 500)) > >> > >> ;; Bind this search function to Ctrl-x p: > >> (global-set-key (kbd "C-x p") 'helm-bibtex-my-publications) > >> #+END_SRC > >> > >> > i will definitely use your tag system as you recommended, sounds > perfect > >> > for me > >> > >> The tag system also comes in handy when generating publication lists f= or > >> CVs and web pages because BibTeX does not distinguish between conferen= ce > >> papers, posters, and talks. If you have tags for that, it=E2=80=99s r= elatively > >> easy to create separate sections for these types of publications using > >> biblatex or bib2bib and bibtex2html in the case of web pages. > >> > >> > thanks again for your kind help and the amazing app ;-) > >> > >> You are welcome. > >> > >> Titus > >> > >> > > >> > best > >> > > >> > Z > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Titus von der Malsburg < > >> malsburg@posteo.de > >> >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> On 2015-06-17 Wed 11:08, Xebar Saram wrote: > >> >> > Hi Titus > >> >> > > >> >> > I have been exploring helm-bibtex a bit today and have some > questions. > >> >> btw > >> >> > is this the preferred way to make requests/ask questions or is > >> >> > github preferred? > >> >> > >> >> Helm-bibtex is not part of org (although it tries to work well with > >> >> org). So I=E2=80=99m not sure whether this list is the best place = for > >> >> discussing it. For now the issue tracker on Github might be a bett= er > >> >> option: > >> >> > >> >> https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex/issues > >> >> > >> >> > in any case i was wondering a few things: > >> >> > > >> >> > 1. is it possible to have custom sorting? i want all views to sor= t > by > >> >> > Author, year, month > >> >> > >> >> I prefer to see the entries in the (inverse) order in which they > appear > >> >> in the BibTeX file. This way, recent additions show up at the > >> >> top. However, I agree that sorting would be useful (see issues #5 > and > >> >> #21); it just doesn=E2=80=99t have high priority for me. Pull requ= ests > welcome. > >> >> > >> >> > 2. i would really like a way to have stored smart groups (like th= e > >> jabref > >> >> > dynamic groups if your aware of that). that is for example create= a > >> group > >> >> > that auto selects all publications i have (by my first/last name) > and > >> >> shows > >> >> > the count (in numbers) of these publications. > >> >> > >> >> I=E2=80=99m not familiar with smart groups but it seems that all he= lm-bibtex > is > >> >> doing is giving you very flexible smart groups defined by your sear= ch > >> >> expressions. For example, if you want a list of your publications, > you > >> >> can simple enter your name. And if you want a list of your article= s, > >> >> you can enter your name + =E2=80=9Carticle=E2=80=9D. If you want a= ll your articles > from > >> >> 2010, enter your name + =E2=80=9Carticles 2010=E2=80=9D. And so on= . The number of > >> >> matches will be displayed in the mode line. If you don=E2=80=99t w= ant to > type > >> >> these search expressions, you could create a command that invokes > >> >> helm-bibtex with a default search expression and that command could > be > >> >> bound to a keyboard shortcut. > >> >> > >> >> > Another example is a group to keep track of all the papers im > working > >> on > >> >> or > >> >> > invloved with by matching keyword author and prep/*other key word > >> >> > >> >> I use two BibTeX fields to tag entries: =E2=80=9Ckeywords=E2=80=9D = for keywords > >> >> describing the content of the paper (as usual) and =E2=80=9Ctags=E2= =80=9D for meta > >> >> data. Values that I use in tags are =E2=80=9Cown=E2=80=9D, =E2=80= =9Cmanuscript=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cposter=E2=80=9D, > >> >> =E2=80=9Ctalk=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=A6 So if I want a list of all articl= es in progress, I search > for > >> >> =E2=80=9Cown manuscript=E2=80=9D. Since the tags field is non-stan= dard, it has to be > >> >> added to `helm-bibtex-additional-search-fields`. > >> >> > >> >> Another solution would be to use the pubstate field and to search f= or > >> >> your name and =E2=80=9Cforthcoming=E2=80=9D (add pubstate to > >> >> helm-bibtex-additional-search-fields for this to work). > >> >> > >> >> > 3.is it possible to ass an option to auto generate a bibkey for a > >> >> selected > >> >> > citation based on user criteria such as author(date)short-title? > >> >> > >> >> Maintaining the content of the BibTeX file not really in the scope = of > >> >> helm-bibtex (I prefer to write my BibTeX entries by hand). Perhaps > >> >> org-ref or ebib can help here? Once you have a function that > generates > >> >> a new key and inserts it in the BibTeX file, you can easily add it = to > >> >> the list of actions in helm-bibtex. > >> >> > >> >> Hope that helps. > >> >> > >> >> Titus > >> >> > >> >> > thx so much in advance, you and john have given me confidence to > >> finally > >> >> > dive into the whole latex/bibteX world > >> >> > > >> >> > best > >> >> > > >> >> > Z > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > --047d7b5d8ccd01a29b05190b7ffe Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
sweet! I did not know you could do that! I will be refacto= ring org-ref soon to do that instead of redefining the commands!

John

-----------------------= ------------
Professor John Kitchin=C2=A0
Doherty Hall A207F
Depar= tment of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, = PA 15213
412-268-7803

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Titus von d= er Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de> wrote:

On 2015-06-19 Fri 03:56, Xebar Saram wrote:
> Hi again Titus
>
> 2 quick questions that arose from using helm-bitex today extensively:<= br> >
> how does one exclude in the search items? for example i want to search= for
> xebar without keyword "progress" (I want to exclude in progr= ess articles
> not published yet)
>
> is it possible to define default enter command in helm-bibtex ?

Yes.=C2=A0 Helm uses the first action as the default action.=C2=A0 T= o move an
action to the top of the list you can use the following code:

=C2=A0 (helm-delete-action-from-source "Insert BibTeX key" helm-s= ource-bibtex)
=C2=A0 (helm-add-action-to-source "Insert BibTeX key" 'helm-b= ibtex-insert-key helm-source-bibtex 0)

The second argument in the second line is the function that executes the action.=C2=A0 Here is a list of all actions and their functions:

=C2=A0 Open PDF file (if present): helm-bibtex-open-pdf
=C2=A0 Open URL or DOI in browser: helm-bibtex-open-url-or-doi
=C2=A0 Insert citation: helm-bibtex-insert-citation
=C2=A0 Insert reference: helm-bibtex-insert-reference
=C2=A0 Insert BibTeX key: helm-bibtex-insert-key
=C2=A0 Insert BibTeX entry: helm-bibtex-insert-bibtex
=C2=A0 Attach PDF to email: helm-bibtex-add-PDF-attachment
=C2=A0 Edit notes: helm-bibtex-edit-notes
=C2=A0 Show entry: helm-bibtex-show-entry

Best,

=C2=A0 Titus

>
> best
>
> Z
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Titus von der Malsburg <malsburg@posteo.de>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 2015-06-18 Thu 04:32, Xebar Saram wrote:
>> > Hi Titus and thx so much for the answers!
>> >
>> > i will in the future use the github page to make requests. >> >
>> > "The number of matches will be displayed in the mode lin= e. "
>> >
>> > i see that now thx! :) the problem was(is) that its colored b= lack on my
>> > black modline BG which makes it invisible ;-) i assume thats = an helm
>> config
>> > i need to change
>> >
>> >
>> > "If you don=E2=80=99t want to type these search expressi= ons, you could create a
>> > command that invokes helm-bibtex with a default search expres= sion and
>> that
>> > command could be bound to a keyboard shortcut."
>> >
>> > that would be prefect for me and a solution to my issue. woul= d you mind
>> > giving an example of such a code chunk. unfortunately i dont = know elisp
>> though
>> > as john recommended i will do my best this summer when the se= mester ends
>> to
>> > try and pick it up :)
>>
>> Sure, here you go:
>>
>> #+BEGIN_SRC elisp
>> ;; Define helm-search with predefined search expression:
>> (defun helm-bibtex-my-publications ()
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0"Search BibTeX entries authored by Xebar Saram.&q= uot;
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0(interactive)
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0(helm :sources '(helm-source-bibtex)
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:full-frame t
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:input "xebar saram" >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:candidate-number-limit 500))
>>
>> ;; Bind this search function to Ctrl-x p:
>> (global-set-key (kbd "C-x p") 'helm-bibtex-my-public= ations)
>> #+END_SRC
>>
>> > i will definitely use your tag system as you recommended, sou= nds perfect
>> > for me
>>
>> The tag system also comes in handy when generating publication lis= ts for
>> CVs and web pages because BibTeX does not distinguish between conf= erence
>> papers, posters, and talks.=C2=A0 If you have tags for that, it=E2= =80=99s relatively
>> easy to create separate sections for these types of publications u= sing
>> biblatex or bib2bib and bibtex2html in the case of web pages.
>>
>> > thanks again for your kind help and the amazing app ;-)
>>
>> You are welcome.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Titus
>>
>> >
>> > best
>> >
>> > Z
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Titus von der Malsburg <=
>> malsburg@posteo.de
>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On 2015-06-17 Wed 11:08, Xebar Saram wrote:
>> >> > Hi Titus
>> >> >
>> >> > I have been exploring helm-bibtex a bit today and ha= ve some questions.
>> >> btw
>> >> > is this the preferred way to make requests/ask quest= ions or is
>> >> > github preferred?
>> >>
>> >> Helm-bibtex is not part of org (although it tries to work= well with
>> >> org).=C2=A0 So I=E2=80=99m not sure whether this list is = the best place for
>> >> discussing it.=C2=A0 For now the issue tracker on Github = might be a better
>> >> option:
>> >>
>> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://github.com/tmal= sburg/helm-bibtex/issues
>> >>
>> >> > in any case i was wondering a few things:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. is it possible to have custom sorting? i want all= views to sort by
>> >> > Author, year, month
>> >>
>> >> I prefer to see the entries in the (inverse) order in whi= ch they appear
>> >> in the BibTeX file.=C2=A0 This way, recent additions show= up at the
>> >> top.=C2=A0 However, I agree that sorting would be useful = (see issues #5 and
>> >> #21); it just doesn=E2=80=99t have high priority for me.= =C2=A0 Pull requests welcome.
>> >>
>> >> > 2. i would really like a way to have stored smart gr= oups (like the
>> jabref
>> >> > dynamic groups if your aware of that). that is for e= xample create a
>> group
>> >> > that auto selects all publications i have (by my fir= st/last name) and
>> >> shows
>> >> > the count (in numbers) of these publications.
>> >>
>> >> I=E2=80=99m not familiar with smart groups but it seems t= hat all helm-bibtex is
>> >> doing is giving you very flexible smart groups defined by= your search
>> >> expressions.=C2=A0 For example, if you want a list of you= r publications, you
>> >> can simple enter your name.=C2=A0 And if you want a list = of your articles,
>> >> you can enter your name + =E2=80=9Carticle=E2=80=9D.=C2= =A0 If you want all your articles from
>> >> 2010, enter your name + =E2=80=9Carticles 2010=E2=80=9D.= =C2=A0 And so on.=C2=A0 The number of
>> >> matches will be displayed in the mode line.=C2=A0 If you = don=E2=80=99t want to type
>> >> these search expressions, you could create a command that= invokes
>> >> helm-bibtex with a default search expression and that com= mand could be
>> >> bound to a keyboard shortcut.
>> >>
>> >> > Another example is a group to keep track of all the = papers im working
>> on
>> >> or
>> >> > invloved with by matching keyword author and prep/*o= ther key word
>> >>
>> >> I use two BibTeX fields to tag entries: =E2=80=9Ckeywords= =E2=80=9D for keywords
>> >> describing the content of the paper (as usual) and =E2=80= =9Ctags=E2=80=9D for meta
>> >> data.=C2=A0 Values that I use in tags are =E2=80=9Cown=E2= =80=9D, =E2=80=9Cmanuscript=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cposter=E2=80=9D,
>> >> =E2=80=9Ctalk=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=A6 So if I want a list of = all articles in progress, I search for
>> >> =E2=80=9Cown manuscript=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 Since the tags fi= eld is non-standard, it has to be
>> >> added to `helm-bibtex-additional-search-fields`.
>> >>
>> >> Another solution would be to use the pubstate field and t= o search for
>> >> your name and =E2=80=9Cforthcoming=E2=80=9D (add pubstate= to
>> >> helm-bibtex-additional-search-fields for this to work). >> >>
>> >> > 3.is it possible to ass an option to auto generate a bibkey fo= r a
>> >> selected
>> >> > citation based on user criteria such as author(date)= short-title?
>> >>
>> >> Maintaining the content of the BibTeX file not really in = the scope of
>> >> helm-bibtex (I prefer to write my BibTeX entries by hand)= .=C2=A0 Perhaps
>> >> org-ref or ebib can help here?=C2=A0 Once you have a func= tion that generates
>> >> a new key and inserts it in the BibTeX file, you can easi= ly add it to
>> >> the list of actions in helm-bibtex.
>> >>
>> >> Hope that helps.
>> >>
>> >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Titus
>> >>
>> >> > thx so much in advance, you and john have given me c= onfidence to
>> finally
>> >> > dive into the whole latex/bibteX world
>> >> >
>> >> > best
>> >> >
>> >> > Z
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>


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