From: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>,
"emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: org-ref code
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 08:47:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ51EToczsD6x3KO3abDcSyfnHdBuCChHuwGTOH_QuM4krmoiQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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sorry, premature send!
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 8:36 AM, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback. I moved the key-bindings for f10-12 out of
> org-ref.
>
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> I've been playing with the package although, so far, only for
>> citations. A few points:
>>
>> 1. Do you have any support for choosing the type of citation entry
>> (i.e. \cite versus \autocite versus ...) when inserting a
>> citation in the text?
>>
>
> Not at the moment. There are a few ways I can see doing this. With the
> existing code, you can do M-x reftex-citation, select the format you want
> and select the references. We could easily enough define additional formats
> for other citation types. I found this way of inserting citations annoying,
> because 99.99% of the time I want a simple cite link, and pressing C-c ]
> return regexp marking return was too much for me (I cite a lot). I also
> found this method was not flexible, in the sense that it was not easy to
> add citations to an existing citation. That is why there is an ?a option to
> append citations in the code.
>
an alternative would be to use a prefix command that gave you an option to
change the cite format, similar to the minibuffer menu for cite links. I
have not written much prefix code before, but I will try that out.
>
>
>>
>> 2. You define org-link-types. Unfortunately, this overwrites my own
>> definitions, especially for "cite". I wonder whether this type
>> of customisation belongs in org-ref itself. This is similar to
>> my earlier comment about key bindings, I guess.
>>
>
In the end, the link definitions can be as short as this:
#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :tangle org-ref.el
(org-add-link-type
"cite"
'org-ref-cite-onclick-minibuffer-menu
'org-ref-cite-link-format)
#+END_SRC
I wrote this for my research group to use, and eventually the links have to
be defined somewhere. I am not sure what the best place would be. It is an
interesting issue of reproducibility though. Two people with different link
definitions would get different results.
>> 3. I sometimes use biblatex instead of bibtex. As a result, I do not
>> use \bibliography and use \addbibresource instead. I have
>> defined my bibliography files in org-ref-default-bibliography but
>> this is only picked up on initialisation. It is difficult to
>> update this for a document in progress (I had to locally set
>> reftex-default-bibliography manually).
>>
>
It should be easy enough to make an addbibresource link that does the same
thing as the bibliography link. And maybe to modify the find-bibliography
code to check for that too. I have never used biblatex though, so I dont
have any experience with it.
>
>> 4. The customisation interface for org-ref-default-bibliography should be
>> list aware...
>>
>
I think I fixed this.
>
>> Otherwise, seems to working just fine.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> eric
>>
>> --
>> : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.2, Org
>> release_8.2.6-923-g233c11
>>
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-01 12:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-30 20:59 org-ref code John Kitchin
2014-05-01 6:23 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-01 10:01 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-01 12:21 ` Seb Frank
2014-05-01 14:08 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-01 12:36 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-01 12:47 ` John Kitchin [this message]
2014-05-01 13:30 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-01 17:07 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-10 14:44 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-11 18:48 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-12 8:12 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2014-05-13 2:37 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-12 13:36 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-12 17:20 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2014-05-12 17:26 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-13 0:03 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2014-05-13 11:00 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-13 18:51 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-13 20:01 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-13 20:11 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-14 0:28 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-14 18:17 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-14 19:03 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2014-05-14 19:48 ` Sharon Kimble
2014-05-14 20:08 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2014-05-14 22:14 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-14 20:35 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-15 6:58 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-15 8:17 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-15 13:05 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-15 13:14 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-15 13:30 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-15 14:19 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-15 14:31 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-15 15:03 ` Eric S Fraga
2014-05-15 13:15 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-14 3:58 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2014-05-14 13:17 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-13 23:33 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2014-05-14 0:38 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-14 3:39 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2014-05-14 13:14 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-14 17:39 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2014-05-18 17:16 ` org-ref for biblatex Andreas Reuleaux
2014-05-18 21:40 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-18 22:38 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2014-05-19 11:38 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-19 12:15 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2014-05-19 17:34 ` Andreas Reuleaux
2014-05-08 8:31 ` org-ref code Vikas Rawal
2014-05-08 13:53 ` John Kitchin
2014-05-15 10:09 ` Bastien
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