From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Johan Ekh Subject: Re: Slow usage of capture templates Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 09:36:49 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8737gyrg6s.fsf@gmail.com> <87a83iqx7d.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <878tj244si.fsf@alphapapa.net> <87zibhaabf.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113caa44f067ce055624e84c" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40232) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1decas-0001DA-TQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 03:36:56 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1decar-0006tw-6b for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 03:36:54 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22f]:36197) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1decar-0006t4-02 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 03:36:53 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id g131so58564958oic.3 for ; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 00:36:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zibhaabf.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Tim Cross Cc: Adam Porter , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --001a113caa44f067ce055624e84c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks Tim! I didn't know about this. Ive installed it and it seems to work very nice! I will continue to test it and maybe scrap both vmware (been using for 10+ years) and cygwin. Thanks alot! Johan On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Tim Cross wrote: > > Probably no real help, but win10 is (or soon will be) bundling in bash > shell, which may address many of the reasons to use Cygwin. From posts > I've seen on a number of lists, I would not be surprised to see cygwin > slowly decline into obscurity. I see little interest in the emacs devel > list for cygwin since the native windows version has matured (and it has > been suggested, is the largest emacs user base). > > Having bash, a native emacs and even a 'better' system shell in > powershell (better than bat scripts and VB that is), at some point, you > will likely have to switch and I can say, it is much less distasteful > than it was (I've been using Linux since 1993 and Emacs since 97 and am > also forced to run windows at work). > > Alternatively, do what I actually do - run vmware and Linux as a > virtual - technically, I'm running the work SOE and within policy! When > I absolutely have to do things in windows, I use native Emacs and a > small amount of powershell, but plan to use the bash shell once I find > time to sort it all out. > > Tim > > Johan Ekh writes: > > > Thanks Adam > > > > I've tried the native windows version and it does not have this problem. > > But I'm an old school Linux user that is forced to use windows at work. > > I've managed to set up Cygwin and it works quite well, in fact I think > > Emacs is working very well except for the issue in this post. Not slow. > > Thanks anyway. / Johan > > > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Adam Porter wrote: > > > >> This isn't much help, but the best suggestion I have is to try the > >> non-Cygwin, native Windows build. I use the Cygwin build myself, but it > >> is inherently slow compared to Linux builds for some reason. It takes > >> probably 10-20 times as long to startup, and everything I do it in it is > >> slow compared to in Linux. Maybe the native Windows build will perform > >> better. > >> > >> > >> > > > -- > Tim Cross > --001a113caa44f067ce055624e84c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Tim! I didn't know about this. Ive install= ed it and it seems to work very nice! I will continue to test it and maybe = scrap both vmware (been using for 10+ years) and cygwin. Thanks alot!
Johan

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.co= m> wrote:

Probably no real help, but win10 is (or soon will be) bundling in bash
shell, which may address many of the reasons to use Cygwin. From posts
I've seen on a number of lists, I would not be surprised to see cygwin<= br> slowly decline into obscurity. I see little interest in the emacs devel
list for cygwin since the native windows version has matured (and it has been suggested, is the largest emacs user base).

Having bash, a native emacs and even a 'better' system shell in
powershell (better than bat scripts and VB that is), at some point, you
will likely have to switch and I can say, it is much less distasteful
than it was (I've been using Linux since 1993 and Emacs since 97 and am=
also forced to run windows at work).

Alternatively, do what I actually do - run vmware and Linux as a
virtual - technically, I'm running the work SOE and within policy! When=
I absolutely have to do things in windows, I use native Emacs and a
small amount of powershell, but plan to use the bash shell once I find
time to sort it all out.

Tim

Johan Ekh writes:

> Thanks Adam
>
> I've tried the native windows version and it does not have this pr= oblem.
> But I'm an old school Linux user that is forced to use windows at = work.
> I've managed to set up Cygwin and it works quite well, in fact I t= hink
> Emacs is working very well except for the issue in this post. Not slow= .
> Thanks anyway. / Johan
>
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net> wrote:
>
>> This isn't much help, but the best suggestion I have is to try= the
>> non-Cygwin, native Windows build.=C2=A0 I use the Cygwin build mys= elf, but it
>> is inherently slow compared to Linux builds for some reason.=C2=A0= It takes
>> probably 10-20 times as long to startup, and everything I do it in= it is
>> slow compared to in Linux.=C2=A0 Maybe the native Windows build wi= ll perform
>> better.
>>
>>
>>


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Tim Cross

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