First of all, thank you for the tutorial and the code! Outshine has become a major component of my workflow, I use it in all my source code buffers (sql, R, elisp). I have one question/proposal regarding key bindings. Outshine binds TAB to outshine-cycle-subtree which only does something useful (calls outshine-cycle) when the point is on a header line, otherwise it prints a message. TAB is used heavily in various source code -related modes (yasnippets, smart-tab, etc. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/TabCompletion is a great source for those) - the behavior which I don't want to lose. There is some support of other TAB behaviors in outline-cycle but it is not used (and it ignores the user-defined bindings). A while back I wrote a macro (based on the advice in http://stackoverflow.com/a/2494384/973603) which allows to activate minor mode bindings when a condition is true and fall back to previous bindings otherwise: (defmacro define-key-with-fallback (keymap key def condition &optional mode) "Define key with fallback. Binds KEY to definition DEF in keymap KEYMAP, the binding is active when the CONDITION is true. Otherwise turns MODE off and re-enables previous definition for KEY. If MODE is nil, tries to recover it by stripping off \"-map\" from KEYMAP name." `(define-key ,keymap ,key (lambda () (interactive) (if ,condition ,def (let* ((,(if mode mode (let* ((keymap-str (symbol-name keymap)) (mode-name-end (- (string-width keymap-str) 4))) (if (string= "-map" (substring keymap-str mode-name-end)) (intern (substring keymap-str 0 mode-name-end)) (error "Could not deduce mode name from keymap name (\"-map\" missing?)")))) nil) (original-func (key-binding ,key))) (call-interactively original-func)))))) So now I can just do (define-key-with-fallback outline-minor-mode-map (kbd "TAB") (outline-cycle 1) (outline-on-heading-p)) and have my yasnippets and smart indentation/completion active again. My question is am I reinventing the wheel? Is there a function/macro in org-mode or elsewhere that would allow me define key bindings with fallback? Thanks again, Alex On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: > > Hi List, > > there is a now a tutorial on Worg describing the recently announced new > libraries for using (concepts and functionality of) Org-mode when > outside Org-mode: > > ,----------------------------------------------------------- > | http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-outside-org.html > `----------------------------------------------------------- > > Besides using the 'well-known' orgstruct-minor-mode, you can now: > > - use outline-minor-mode with *outshine.el* extensions and structure > your file with outshine-style headlines, giving your source-code files > the look&feel of Org-mode files. Should work in any major-mode. > > - use *outorg.el* to edit complete subtrees or the whole file as > Org-mode in a temporary Org-mode edit-buffer. Depends on outshine. > > - use *navi-mode.el* to open an occur-like indirect buffer for > super-fast navigation and structure-editing (as well as other common > actions on subtrees) in the associated original-buffer - all with > one-key commands in a read-only buffer. A kind of customizable > remote-control for the original-buffer with many views combining > headline and keyword searches and easy switching between the > associated buffers. Depends somehow on outshine too, but to a much > lesser degree than outorg.el > > And of course you have Francois Pinard's *poporg.el* and can (completely > independent from orgstruct or outshine): > > - edit atomic comment-sections (anywhere in a source-code buffer, no > matter what major-mode) in a temporary Org-mode edit-buffer. Thus, > while *outorg* gives you a whole subtree with headline and source-code > blocks in a temporary Org-mode edit-buffer, *poporg* gives you only > the comment-string near point and nothing else, so that both libraries > complement each other really well in their usage. > > For more details see the tutorial on Worg. > > -- > cheers, > Thorsten > > > >