From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alan Tyree Subject: Re: LaTex export questions Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 14:31:34 +1000 Message-ID: References: <87mwe3uhmt.fsf@stevenarntson.com> <871tve7wmj.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwe2c30n.fsf@alphaville.bos.redhat.com> <87d2eyvb3a.fsf@stevenarntson.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6d8484940e4904fa6e498b Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52388) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WpVWb-000256-J0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 00:31:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WpVWZ-00050V-OV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 00:31:37 -0400 Received: from mail-ig0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22a]:60483) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WpVWZ-0004yj-GV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 28 May 2014 00:31:35 -0400 Received: by mail-ig0-f170.google.com with SMTP id uy17so1879155igb.5 for ; Tue, 27 May 2014 21:31:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87d2eyvb3a.fsf@stevenarntson.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Steven Arntson Cc: emacs-orgmode --047d7b6d8484940e4904fa6e498b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Steven, You want to learn more about LaTeX, but it's not too much. I wrote a little book called Self-publishing with LyX that will help you set up the title page as well as some of your other problems. This is not a sales pitch -- it's free :-). Self-publishing with LyX ISBN: 978-0-9803-3242-1 http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870 Cheers, Alan On 28 May 2014 13:25, Steven Arntson wrote: > Nick Dokos writes: > > > Igor Sosa Mayor writes: > > > >> Steven Arntson writes: > >> > >>> Hi, I'm trying to export an org-mode doc to LaTex and subsequently to > >>> PDF. This is a literary novel, written in prose. Right now when I run > >>> the export command, the resulting file is incorrectly formatted for the > >>> literary world, and I'm not sure how to change it. Is there a dialog or > >>> "customize" menu that allows users to eliminate some default settings, > >>> and add others? > >> > >> Maybe you can configure it with > >> M-x customize-group org > >> > >> But I think a look at the manual is pretty useful and you can configure > >> it in your .emacs without very much complication: > >> > >> http://orgmode.org/manual/Export-settings.html#Export-settings > >> > http://orgmode.org/manual/LaTeX-and-PDF-export.html#LaTeX-and-PDF-export > > > > I may be barking up the wrong tree, but to me the problem seems to be > > not so much what org does, but what latex does. If that is so, then > > perhaps what is needed is a latex style file that formats prose > > "correctly for the literary world". That may be a non-trivial > > undertaking (but maybe not: typographical demands for a novel are > > trivial compared to say mathematics). Integrating such a hypothetical > > style file into org would be pretty easy. > > > > But perhaps the OP can clarify: what does "incorrectly formatted for > > the literary world" mean? > > > > Nick > > Full disclosure: I'm a beginning emacs user, and I know nothing about > LaTex at all! > > I'm not producing a "book" per se, but a manuscript that will be > printed on 8.5 x 11 pages and read by my agent or a publisher. The > conventions are simple, but thus far I haven't been able to understand > much of what I'm reading in the customize menu for org-mode. > > Until now I've done this formatting with MS Word or Libre Office. I > dislike those programs, but I know how to use them. Simplest has been to > take my raw org-mode txt files and convert them manually. It's a tedious > last step before sending downstream, which I'd love to replace, and I've > seen some beautiful LaTex examples online, so I know it's possible ... > > Literary format redux: > + 12 point text > + Title page has title and author name, centered both horizontally and > vertically. Contact info for agent is in the bottom left, single spaced. > + Remaining pages are double-spaced > + Page numbers are centered at the bottom of the page (but no page number > on title page) > + Each page has a right-justified header in the format LASTNAME/TITLE > > That's it. I guess I'm wondering now--should I be learning more about > org-mode, or more about LaTex? > > Thank you very much for taking the time to read all of this. > > -Steven > > > > -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206 --047d7b6d8484940e4904fa6e498b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Steven,
You want to learn more = about LaTeX, but it's not too much.

I wrote a little book = called Self-publishing with LyX that will help you set up the title page as= well as some of your other problems. This is not a sales pitch -- it's= free :-).

=C2=A0Self-publishing with LyX=C2=A0=C2=A0
ISBN: 978-0-9803-3= 242-1
http://www.lulu.co= m/content/1085870

Cheers,
Alan



O= n 28 May 2014 13:25, Steven Arntson <steven@stevenarntson.com&g= t; wrote:
Nick= Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> wri= tes:

> Igor Sosa Mayor <jose= leopoldo1792@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Steven Arntson <ste= ven@stevenarntson.com> writes:
>>
>>> Hi, I'm trying to export an org-mode doc to LaTex and subs= equently to
>>> PDF. This is a literary novel, written in prose. Right now whe= n I run
>>> the export command, the resulting file is incorrectly formatte= d for the
>>> literary world, and I'm not sure how to change it. Is ther= e a dialog or
>>> "customize" menu that allows users to eliminate some= default settings,
>>> and add others?
>>
>> Maybe you can configure it with
>> M-x customize-group org
>>
>> But I think a look at the manual is pretty useful and you can conf= igure
>> it in your .emacs without very much complication:
>>
>> http://orgmode.org/manual/Export-settings.html#E= xport-settings
>> http://orgmode.org/manual/LaTeX-and-PD= F-export.html#LaTeX-and-PDF-export
>
> I may be barking up the wrong tree, but to me the problem seems to be<= br> > not so much what org does, but what latex does. If that is so, then > perhaps what is needed is a latex style file that formats prose
> "correctly for the literary world". That may be a non-trivia= l
> undertaking (but maybe not: typographical demands for a novel are
> trivial compared to say mathematics). Integrating such a hypothetical<= br> > style file into org would be pretty easy.
>
> But perhaps the OP can clarify: what does "incorrectly formatted = for
> the literary world" mean?
>
> Nick

Full disclosure: I'm a beginning emacs user, and I know not= hing about
LaTex at all!

I'm not producing a "book" per se, but a manuscript that will= be
printed on 8.5 x 11 pages and read by my agent or a publisher. The
conventions are simple, but thus far I haven't been able to understand<= br> much of what I'm reading in the customize menu for org-mode.

Until now I've done this formatting with MS Word or Libre Office. I
dislike those programs, but I know how to use them. Simplest has been to take my raw org-mode txt files and convert them manually. It's a tediou= s
last step before sending downstream, which I'd love to replace, and I&#= 39;ve
seen some beautiful LaTex examples online, so I know it's possible ...<= br>
Literary format redux:
+ 12 point text
+ Title page has title and author name, centered both horizontally and
vertically. Contact info for agent is in the bottom left, single spaced. + Remaining pages are double-spaced
+ Page numbers are centered at the bottom of the page (but no page number on title page)
+ Each page has a right-justified header in the format LASTNAME/TITLE

That's it. I guess I'm wondering now--should I be learning more abo= ut
org-mode, or more about LaTex?

Thank you very much for taking the time to read all of this.

-Steven






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Tel:=C2=A0 04 2748 6206
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