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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= , Tom Gillespie , orgmode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1638158372; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=GOB2ZTe8QAI98ookMVxYN14cTNJhCmJ/q9zKJ/fgD5s=; b=FS2T1qR05t4fHKOSm+arqL62PQ42r49y1vD+ErTuwz9ypQTivEDBgq7iHaMnrl9/VdT8Qx 4ywC2ZHBJ5CvBf4dY1DGmF25eocearPcP2P0It1mt3ArgL0PrdbZx27IuXM4wM4ULBgFcC EYsCYIS/eCThkSx0Sbh+MWBkVKQ8qGFBY8EVhtT/B2aftY8HdESj6LVNqzcV+NuyWSoPXa KUwXi3PAlgcWuD1FSRppLA64z6To0S9T38PJl1i7Tlp0XXvTh21mTm4bW5oMf8WVKg/rrm U/yn2z6rbq9BZJd4/tlC/jTpDRrKY6oswUdAm4ktRF7TMuGesHbwUZwWnhYvjg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1638158372; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=bxwefbHHIrgvT65O74CNg703Hq7sk1LVMlSmoz2r76bl80sA1Af4sdMjhRpoxKALbtS4b3 zRi9L9/wp6aty2zvW2+yj1RGO/RRvb3bU5GE6kPHiamuvXEkl87whv8vtEhVKsHMgWyses rW5VJiD4kzZe1diH3HbBS92ku4MKXV/3+QGTmO9dG/SMkd2+hJtGo6/2LG2n4mrTt8Ig+P p08b2appZeE0rlvTd9bzlHUMKWYCVJdqahEd026YbQ84h4fjAt/eBdsrZsV5BE/ymupks+ Zi/n4Q6dP5qwJaAhafb7H+3j4H917CeRvuUjhLikLbsgpELoI/quyS713EluuA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=NQomgtFB; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.81 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=NQomgtFB; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5387031049 X-Spam-Score: -1.81 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: zLcI4Z42+3tt --0000000000008a346005d1e4fe67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or OrgMark. Simple, please no levels to show the amount of adherence to the spec. OrgMark would symbolize the "markings" or syntax of Org-mode, and not be close enough to Mark(down) to where people would think, like I did, that this was Org-mode power given to a subset of Markdown to help, say, Obsidian users come to Org-mode. No, I don't think we need that either. Otherwise, I'm perfectly find with calling it Org. Just like Python, HTML, all that. We don't say, in relaxed speech where the speaker assumes prior known knowledge, or knowledge that can be easily filled in, "I'm writing a book in Markdown markup language." We just say "I'm writing a book in Markdown." And if the listener doesn't know what we mean, we can explain. Devin Prater r.d.t.prater@gmail.com On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 5:24 PM Jean-Christophe Helary < lists@traduction-libre.org> wrote: > > > > On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:57, Tom Gillespie wrote: > > > > PS Another brainstormed name: Orgsyn? > > Org Agnostic Syntax Modules =E2=86=92 OrgASM > > -- > Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune > https://mac4translators.blogspot.com > https://sr.ht/~brandelune/omegat-as-a-book/ > > > --0000000000008a346005d1e4fe67 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Or OrgMark. Simple, please no levels to show the amount of= adherence to the spec. OrgMark would symbolize the "markings" or= syntax of Org-mode, and not be close enough to Mark(down) to where people = would think, like I did, that this was Org-mode power given to a subset of = Markdown to help, say, Obsidian users come to Org-mode. No, I don't thi= nk we need that either.

Otherwise, I'm perfectly fin= d with calling it Org. Just like Python, HTML, all that. We don't say, = in relaxed speech where the speaker assumes prior known knowledge, or knowl= edge that can be easily filled in, "I'm writing a book in Markdown= markup language." We just say "I'm writing a book in Markdow= n." And if the listener doesn't know what we mean, we can explain.=
Devin Prater


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On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 5:24 PM Jean-Chris= tophe Helary <lists@traduc= tion-libre.org> wrote:


> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:57, Tom Gillespie <tgbugs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> PS Another brainstormed name: Orgsyn?

Org Agnostic Syntax Modules =E2=86=92 OrgASM

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Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune
https://mac4translators.blogspot.com
https://sr.ht/~brandelune/omegat-as-a-book/


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