From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: brian powell Subject: Re: Mail composed using emacs --- saving a copy in an org file. Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:48:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <29769.1331839188@alphaville> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40190) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8Gee-0004LV-4z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:48:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8Geb-0002rx-R2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:48:07 -0400 Received: from mail-gx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.161.169]:45687) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8Geb-0002rq-KB for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:48:05 -0400 Received: by ggeq1 with SMTP id q1so4107195gge.0 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:48:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <29769.1331839188@alphaville> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com Cc: org-mode * Fully agree with nick--especially about the "please be more specific about the MUA"-part--mh-e is another possibility--written by another person I used to work with (mh)--vm was written by Kyle Jones--yet another person I used to work with... ** Come to think of it; I used to use RMAIL too in EMACS--Kyle wrote VM to include MIME/mail extensions, etc. **** You mentioned that you tried GNUS as a mail reader, etc.--and you didn't get what you wanted: =3D> In a nutshell: MH/mh-e is the quintessential all-in-one extremely customizable mail package and mh-e is the EMACS mode for it--absolutely amazing and useful for email (written by W3Org/consortium people I used to work with)--probably overkill for you. RMAIL is old, slightly outdated--but very useful and simple, VM, is better for you probably: This site/guru agrees with me--VM is your best choice: "Emacs has three built-in mail reading and sending interfaces: RMAIL RMAIL is a basic (and the default) mail reading package. MH-E MH-E is a front-end for the MH mail tools. Gnus Gnus is mainly a Usenet reading package but has capabilities for reading mail and doing other strange things. Now that you know your options inherent in Emacs I'm going to tell you about my favorite non-standard mail user agent (MUA): VM (View Mail) written by Kyle Jones." <=3D http://linuxgazette.net/109/simpson.html **** Back to hooks (that one may use to hook to org-capture) VM has a lot of them ready for you to play with!: http://www.wonderworks.com/vm/user-manual/vm_21.html On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Nick Dokos wrote: > > Alan E. Davis wrote: > > > I am partial to just opening a mail buffer and writing email in > > Emacs.=A0 Just that.=A0 However, it would be great to save a copy in an > > org file. > > > > Are you using an emacs package to send email? Or are you just composing > your email in emacs, saving it as a file and sending it with some > external MUA? > > If the former, you can probably find a hook that the emacs package uses > (e.g. for mh-e, the appropriate hook would probably be > mh-before-send-letter-hook), so that you can save the email in a file, > possibly after transforming it suitably. > > In some sense this is similar, but in another sense opposite, to Jos'h > Fuller's suggestion: in his scenario, you use org-capture to compose the > message and use an org-capture hook to transform it suitably and > actually send it; in this scenario, you compose the mail in some mail > package (there are several) and you use a hook that the mail package > provides to transform it suitably and save it in some org file. > > OTOH, if you use an external MUA, Jos'h 's approach might still work > whereas this one has no hope. But if you can live in emacs, why live > anywhere else? :-) > > Nick > > > An emacs FAQ suggests sending a BCC or FCC to oneself.=A0 What I want i= s > > a copy stored in an org-mode subtree, with a convenient headline > > indicating the name of the recipient and the date. > > > > > > So far, I haven't gotten my head around the idea of using BABEL, and I = still like text for email. > > =A0 My experiments with GNUS have not been very successful.=A0 So far. > > > > I apologize for the naive level of this and some of my other questions.= =A0 Though I may not be getting > > the maximum usefulness of all of org-mode's features, those features I = do use are awesome.=A0=A0 Thank > > you. > > > >