From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Fabrice Popineau Subject: Re: Slow usage of capture templates Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 10:00:25 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8737gyrg6s.fsf@gmail.com> <87a83iqx7d.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <878tj244si.fsf@alphapapa.net> <87zibhaabf.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: fabrice.popineau@centralesupelec.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11472a8687dc3b0556253edb" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44242) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1decyF-0008RL-WD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 04:01:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1decyC-0000Un-UP for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 04:01:04 -0400 Received: from smtp2.supelec.fr ([160.228.120.31]:42998) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1decyC-0000JB-Ji for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 04:01:00 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.supelec.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99CF803EF for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 10:00:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp2.supelec.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2.supelec.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2tXeFElarXfD for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 10:00:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-qk0-f175.google.com (mail-qk0-f175.google.com [209.85.220.175]) by smtp2.supelec.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 37DE7803E8 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2017 10:00:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-qk0-f175.google.com with SMTP id d136so35725669qkg.3 for ; Mon, 07 Aug 2017 01:00:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zibhaabf.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Tim Cross Cc: Adam Porter , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --001a11472a8687dc3b0556253edb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 2017-08-03 0:12 GMT+02:00 Tim Cross : > Probably no real help, but win10 is (or soon will be) bundling in bash > shell, which may address many of the reasons to use Cygwin. From posts > I've seen on a number of lists, I would not be surprised to see cygwin > slowly decline into obscurity. I see little interest in the emacs devel > list for cygwin since the native windows version has matured (and it has > been suggested, is the largest emacs user base). > > I am a Windows user (very long time) and Cygwin has never been an option to me. Native Emacs works pretty well under Windows. There is only one drawback: it is slow (slower than linux) at running external processes and some emacs packages do that pretty heavily (ivy/counsel, flycheck). I have seen reports of slower startup times with the native Windows emacs than with Linux, however I have not been able to reproduce them (for example using helm default config or spacemacs config). Depending on wheter you use a 32 bits emacs or a 64 bits emacs, you may want to add 32 bits Gnu utilities (https://sourceforge.net/projects/ezwinports/files/) or 64 bits Gnu utilities (http://www.msys2.org/, provides a much better environment than Cygwin in my opinion) Or you may want to try the new WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux, as described by Tim) which provides a full Ubuntu distribution without the penalty for running external processes, and without the penalty of running a VM. WSL is pretty impressive and emacs works pretty well once you get a good X server (like MobaXTerm). Fabrice --001a11472a8687dc3b0556253edb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-08-03 0:12 GMT+02:00 Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>= :
Probably no r= eal help, but win10 is (or soon will be) bundling in bash
shell, which may address many of the reasons to use Cygwin. From posts
I've seen on a number of lists, I would not be surprised to see cygwin<= br> slowly decline into obscurity. I see little interest in the emacs devel
list for cygwin since the native windows version has matured (and it has been suggested, is the largest emacs user base).

I am a Windows user (very long time) and Cygwin has n= ever been an option to me.
Native Emacs works pretty well under W= indows.=C2=A0
There is only one drawback: it is slow (slower than= linux) at running
external processes and some emacs packages do = that pretty heavily (ivy/counsel, flycheck).
I have seen reports = of slower startup times with the native Windows emacs than with Linux, howe= ver I have not
been able to reproduce them (for example using hel= m default config or spacemacs config).

Depending o= n wheter you use a 32 bits emacs or a 64 bits emacs, you may want to add
32 bits Gnu utilities (https://sourceforge.net/projects/ezwinports/files/)<= /div>
or 64 bits Gnu utilities (http:= //www.msys2.org/, provides a much better environment than Cygwin in my = opinion)

Or you may want to try the new WSL (Windo= ws Subsystem for Linux, as described by Tim)=C2=A0
which provides= a full Ubuntu distribution without the penalty for running external proces= ses,=C2=A0
and without the penalty of running a VM.
WSL= is pretty impressive and emacs works pretty well once you get a good X ser= ver (like MobaXTerm).

Fabrice
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