From: Emmanuel Charpentier <emanuel.charpentier@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Possible bug in org-mode (MELPA version as of 1018-11-25) : #+language: is not (fully) honored.
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:37:21 +0100 [thread overview]
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HTH,
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Emmanuel Charpentier
Le dim. 2 déc. 2018 à 21:26, <emanuel.charpentier@gmail.com> a écrit :
> Dear all,
>
> Please find enclosed a proposed patch (against master) to document the
> need for babel/polyglossia in order to honor #+language in LaTeX
> export.
>
> This is purely a documentation patch. A better solution would be to
> detect the use of a non-default #+language: and act accordingly.
> Nicolas notes (rightly) that babel (and polyglossia, BTW) are too
> "invasive" to be default, and is shy of auto-loading the necessary
> package(s) "automagically.
>
> I do not (yet) know how ti reconcile these imperative, hence the
> present interim atch (which should disappear if/when a better solution
> is created).
>
> HTH,
>
> --
> Emmanuel Charpentier
>
>
> Le jeudi 29 novembre 2018 à 20:12 +0100, Nicolas Goaziou a écrit :
> > Emmanuel Charpentier <emanuel.charpentier@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > This is *not* *documented* (not even in the `org-latex-packages-
> > > alist''s
> > > docstring).
> >
> > I know. I fixed `org-latex-packages-alist''s docstring two days ago.
> >
> > > Also agreed, with the reservation that "invasive" didn't mean the
> > > same
> > > thing in the 1980s (when the core size of computers was measured in
> > > kilobytes) and in the 2010s (the current core measurement unit is
> > > the
> > > /giga/byte...).
> >
> > Not invasive by its sheer size, but by the number of alterations it
> > generates in the LaTeX default behaviour, and the incompatibilities
> > it
> > may introduce. For example there used to be issues between frenchb
> > and
> > KOMA-Script.
> >
> > > Again, I think that the end user should *not* have to worry with
> > > this only
> > > when exporting to LaTeX (or beamer or PDF).
> >
> > Ideally, that would be nice.
> >
> > > If this can be handled silently when exporting to ODT, HTML or
> > > plain
> > > text, it should be handled silently when exporting to LaTeX.
> >
> > I disagree. Packages should not be loaded /silently/.
> >
> > > I do not know how to handle this. My *hunch* is that the Latex
> > > Export
> > > function generating the preamble should check for language
> >
> > It does already, in `org-latex-guess-babel-language'.
> >
> > > and if not default, add the relevant package(s) to the preamble.
> >
> > Don't. Anything that is in the header should be declared.
> >
> > We could try and see if Babel causes trouble by adding it to default
> > packages in "next" branch. I'd rather do that than inserting it
> > magically.
>
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-25 20:36 Possible bug in org-mode (MELPA version as of 1018-11-25) : #+language: is not (fully) honored emanuel.charpentier
2018-11-27 14:20 ` Eric S Fraga
2018-11-27 15:29 ` Emmanuel Charpentier
2018-11-27 20:26 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-11-27 20:55 ` emanuel.charpentier
2018-11-27 23:40 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-11-28 11:38 ` Emmanuel Charpentier
2018-11-28 14:06 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-11-29 7:21 ` emanuel.charpentier
2018-11-29 14:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-11-29 17:31 ` Emmanuel Charpentier
2018-11-29 19:12 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-12-02 20:26 ` emanuel.charpentier
2018-12-05 16:37 ` Emmanuel Charpentier [this message]
2018-12-06 22:40 ` Nicolas Goaziou
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2018-11-25 18:01 emanuel.charpentier
2018-11-25 15:54 Emmanuel Charpentier
2018-11-25 19:03 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-11-25 20:32 ` Emmanuel Charpentier
2018-11-25 22:31 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-11-26 3:40 ` Emmanuel Charpentier
2018-11-26 8:58 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-11-25 21:33 ` Emmanuel Charpentier
2018-11-27 14:19 ` Michael Welle
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