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What I've done was to remove the last line in my init.el for ... orgmode.org/elpa, restarted, then tried through list-packages to D org -- which seemed to comply, but never removed org-20210920 from the elpa directory. Not being gone, the old version kept reinstalling itself. So I finally manually moved org-20210920 somewhere else. But then repeated restarts never brought org-9.5 into the list-packages listing, despite having gnu/elpa in my init.el. But I did manage to "trick" 9.5 in by installing an org package with org, naturally, needed as a dependent. It offered some other version, but the "other version" install window knew about latest-greatest 9.5, which I chose, thereby "tricking" 9.5 to be installed. Org-9.5 is now listed only as a dependency in list-packages, of all things. I commented out my org-plus-contrib, not knowing how to proceed with it. The install instructions on the main org page were not very clear, to say the least. On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 1:33 AM Tim Cross wrote: > > Galaxy Being writes: > > > This is in my init.el > > > > ... > > (setq package-archives '(("ELPA" . "http://tromey.com/elpa/") > > ("gnu" . "http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/") > > ("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/") > > ("org" . "https://orgmode.org/elpa/"))) > > ... > > > > I'm guessing the last line is no more and should be removed? In any > case, not getting 9.5 when I do a package update. > > The 9.5 version is in GNU ELPA. However, if you have a version from > orgmode.org or melpa, the version number is probably the release date > e.g. 20211001 or example, and package.el will see that as a later > version to 9.5 (because 20211001 is a larger number!). > > My suggestion would be to uninstall any version you have installed and > then install the 9.5 version from ELPA. I would also remove the > orgmode.org repository as you mention. It may also be worthwhile > 'inning' org to the ELPA repository (which should mean package.el will > only look at the ELPA repository when looking for updates (and not, for > example, MELPA). > > If your running the emacs 28 pretest, it already includes 9.5 > > --=20 =E2=A8=BD Lawrence Bottorff Grand Marais, MN, USA borgauf@gmail.com --000000000000ac095e05ce34c2ab Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What do you mean by=C2=A0'inning' org to the ELPA = repository?

What I've done was to remove the last li= ne in my init.el for ...orgmode.org/elp= a, restarted, then tried through list-packages to D org -- which seemed= to comply, but never removed org-20210920 from the elpa directory. Not bei= ng gone,=C2=A0the=C2=A0old version kept reinstalling itself. So I finally m= anually moved=C2=A0org-20210920 somewhere else. But then repeated restarts = never brought org-9.5 into the list-packages listing,=C2=A0despite having g= nu/elpa in my init.el. But I did manage to "trick" 9.5 in by inst= alling an org package with org, naturally, needed as a dependent. It offere= d some other version, but the=C2=A0"other version" install window= knew about latest-greatest 9.5, which I chose, thereby "tricking"= ; 9.5 to be installed. Org-9.5 is now listed only as a dependency in list-p= ackages, of all things. I commented out my org-plus-contrib, not knowing ho= w to proceed with it. The install instructions on the main org page were no= t very=C2=A0clear,=C2=A0to say the=C2=A0least.

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at= 1:33 AM Tim Cross <theophilusx= @gmail.com> wrote:

Galaxy Being <bor= gauf@gmail.com> writes:

> This is in my init.el
>
> ...
> (setq package-archives '(("ELPA"=C2=A0 . "http://tr= omey.com/elpa/")
> ("gnu"=C2=A0 =C2=A0. "http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/= ")
> ("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/") > ("org"=C2=A0 =C2=A0. "https://orgmode.org/elpa/&quo= t;)))
> ...
>
> I'm guessing the last line is no more and should be removed? In an= y case, not getting 9.5 when I do a package update.

The 9.5 version is in GNU ELPA. However, if you have a version from
orgmode= .org or melpa, the version number is probably the release date
e.g. 20211001 or example, and package.el will see that as a later
version to 9.5 (because 20211001 is a larger number!).

My suggestion would be to uninstall any version you have installed and
then install the 9.5 version from ELPA. I would also remove the
orgmode= .org repository as you mention. It may also be worthwhile
'inning' org to the ELPA repository (which should mean package.el w= ill
only look at the ELPA repository when looking for updates (and not, for
example, MELPA).

If your running the emacs 28 pretest, it already includes 9.5



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