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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Tim Cross , emacs-orgmode Mailinglist Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1634138067; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=3763FZsDDWCvSzR4aiTBcVfvafHWqSLGjsSuqOcBrLw=; b=T6q0IAhOJiCDxTqWA7egR3tPz6dyNWx2KCpzR+be96etwRztx6AvVtZHtU7XnYIhxFMeYq eyVYVtrgeLTjriMis1VsFdudalDaGhn82+WztFAedNkDRlTLWhi1pZ2LPc0nh0g51Vn2Z+ 7M7QVZTfn/fGZ1mhW6FqyZBU7y7FSwvPLT0x9dqyt+gxsukxyyQljXKzLQJEykVDzvoCOO cLdFXzmz0ou7YA46QszgOXdaUvhRLAcw10vkmPmSkbPaep+01lcuCpV0uMu8mU/zxHIuPi tnk/HZnb5nxGkyb5oCwGwhyuDDT9Ygo6+/2aQCrzg6hZUiGKWVocpC8+CQtWiA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1634138067; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=oOshSPgfsllsjl1y1HzUenez+lDkpjK59nc+3P8ojOWE2jFlAGZJnlH5l5lzatQ4QHVqBD yuTi3sG6GkV3yS+gVusF6yD/kdSrz5FPo7nPxW+Cv23j9fX/6Jn/VEvg7xGX1IfHE5x0+N bBg5euYQko4Qhjn5ZdKidOuj2GvQjVlzYYkcH6mPhdzE+7UslFcyJdG27LbDVa/bvbXJp1 bu3jmFch5k8U9pGEjkd0cv+II3RoaHLwFcEM2misPrTCcCSUxcxyefN9n8qcIYHzotUjpM G8KPdddUYVKPdGvnNtqBroyb52i18MVKVznoIRZX2PHo/1lxpad77Jmm7acSVg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=PwyF2Z8Y; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.12 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=PwyF2Z8Y; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CFA2D2B78F X-Spam-Score: -3.12 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 7dfyDfZoYYKS --00000000000056c08205ce3d6751 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Appreciate the help and encouragement. This pinning business ... seems like musical chairs with different suggestions here and there. Should I use this suggestion, or maybe this one, or...? And where is the maintained list of packages? I see .../elpa/archives/ but don't see anything else. Sorry to be a help vampire, but I've never gotten past "casual Emacs user" status and don't think I ever will with my hectic schedule. On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 4:55 AM Greg Minshall wrote: > > The install instructions on the main org page were not very clear, to > > say the least. > > yes, that does sound messy. sorry your experience was so unfortunate. > > i guess one question for the list: is there a general solution to the > "20200912" > "9.5" issue? or, "now" that we are only distributing via > [git repository and] gnu elpa, will that issue disappear? does this > new-fangled concept of "semantic versioning" come into play here? > > possibly in the info pages we could have a section on > "re-installing/upgrading", to help people navigate this process. (once > we, ourselves, have a map.) > > cheers, Greg > --=20 =E2=A8=BD Lawrence Bottorff Grand Marais, MN, USA borgauf@gmail.com --00000000000056c08205ce3d6751 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Appreciate the help and encouragement. This pinning busine= ss ... seems like musical chairs with different suggestions here and there.= Should I use this=C2=A0suggestion, or maybe = this one, or...? And where is the mainta= ined list of packages? I see .../elpa/archives/ but don't see anything = else. Sorry to be a help vampire, but I've never gotten past "casu= al Emacs user" status and don't think I ever will with my hectic s= chedule.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 4:55 AM Greg Minshall <minshall@umich.edu> wrote:
> The install instructions on the= main org page were not very clear, to
> say the least.

yes, that does sound messy.=C2=A0 sorry your experience was so unfortunate.=

i guess one question for the list: is there a general solution to the
"20200912" > "9.5" issue?=C2=A0 or, "now" = that we are only distributing via
[git repository and] gnu elpa, will that issue disappear?=C2=A0 does this new-fangled concept of "semantic versioning" come into play here?=

possibly in the info pages we could have a section on
"re-installing/upgrading", to help people navigate this process.= =C2=A0 (once
we, ourselves, have a map.)

cheers, Greg


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