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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1620680004; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=zcubRft1GmLlBHflDX277bAnSw1kRs2LGHoe//ccZfY=; b=RHhC7Qgpm7sS/8Bv58kvQ6jZq3ndNztg7j4guxLJh8/t2SEGMpwNNMQhBgYHQy9t+PM6dN a09Nl2MgW9SLDS0Fs/5O7fg8gE4mkCyisPtRNS/K0eSgLYOfw3cvNUgDNl44VdVoRG6DgW 7pOcTu5tVr15dU8HnI/Av0Jkg9Q68pQ2MoGYH6xIywpJp1GxEOBAEWfkJSv9YUwynbHv6X hUrlFK7vis7z9uvVGKLVodEFpig9S/YNHgjPgOxBFQLAJkwE4UobvkxedjlmVNDKmQCY/O RmUycOR9Hnc1yeq182DN3nmFv6A8p4BPYgXcciyh6dUkyl+glUiIKCvWrZh2ug== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1620680004; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=sKwT+CRAElmEw3VlxOaIPvEHE29NChj5pq8+Raph+sK4XbBPdWElTBrHGigoxgJd5XhwC4 Gy6lq8V1nn6ra2sYTlZTFhsnKNzFWcs4JeZF+oTletN2BIda/jbLA/CJHR1VIbjQDCXLmY CCEyIja8VUOpu98/J5yZ5xBYEWd6g+uPiqY4/f7DgKu9h7Llk/gbQIOYE4Z6Hvh4O57gWV uyVniqku3XUj4vNRglOF+SNnFLdwZCdDExcrZ4ntANyXUfjIRIvd1Ud4jImchD+X9m/gPb xu0gKXwRCE98IJUI84lES5owph8wbe2xnc8P8qoNDx1NyT7cS+Rg0errZxaKgA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=nBEdK70P; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.65 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=nBEdK70P; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 25E43CC4F X-Spam-Score: -1.65 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: d2svSoMi37CO On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 4:22 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > Hello, > > "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > > > Minor suggestion Nicolas: > > > > Currently, oc-natbib ignores global affixes. > > It is slightly more subtle. It ignores global affixes when there is > a single citation reference. With multiple keys, it ignores local > affixes and uses global ones instead. I keep forgetting the limitations of natbib; namely, it has no per-item affixes, so you can't separately specify locators for individual items when there is more than one in a citation. E.g. natbib itself only has global affixes, in practice, so the question is just how to map the more expressive (biblate-inspired) model of org-cite to that. Maybe what you have now is good for a first release. We'll have to see how people respond probably. Bruce