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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1620134584; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=IjVlYJYQ8irOWR/BH+1ZzpfqPrU7Aj/oheEWJjShTk4=; b=JKb3i/WFOnTnSDVM0oQUO1l1RDcme7uHzdkVk7J0tq0cUtmTGb1TDmqEE09rI6UVYiX/kP HPJ+4L42fYLks8s4Fcvqf++8r9QgQ42D8BsiGWP5Y8ttXruKhZUQeX5oEThQf3g71gqwSn YdtOAxQmk5CuBEmSiui9qNzk4AueAswg5/pOPtEyoQuHxULMiZbDS+DTJPZbMaNs/PsZck 6pRKRBD+EVcaXsmPD5br17ZXyEZxPbnKO1AyJ5hv2et20XboSlxxQm7M+ZkqlVtthE+/Dy OkuAvkQS9PKWcixnsGDR8hTUh1cfhtZz7U90xuHhHWuby1cJywcW2HvTDHcVvA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1620134584; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=jkqaQga9Tj0KJ41Ru/cvzI3Ym3p6FQbK9zEmsqkMuqWX3OiA+5Wsm5ztfKoA9THcCXAYs+ EWTE69GfMDHpXfikP2PT2Q+ECOnaVSv6etUA8eCCz0oTB8cAosct2NCF7aFOSrCywrw5fL UFzBJn5M9nhfBzCDrHqv8yHaUgTkf2vW8/6jt6LHDP7910pbGgpcHWUaFKqmYkvphXR3MK WhdG3iSiTrpW0lD4Kspz1TG9k2fwAhYrNNdDU+uejIAE8RtbktP5665/rZBgE6s1cPJE5d zPmEUYCVmb2tinGJx6hhx2JhEhH/n/0Ua9UpiJ/uQh98YV4nhBBDNec3pJI2CA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=L9lujp7X; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.16 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=L9lujp7X; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6D3A41707F X-Spam-Score: -3.16 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 9w5Bm/l2fBp8 On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:15 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Also, what styles (including shortcuts if necessary) names could we > chose? Asterisk is not allowed in the citation style (but that could > change, if necessary). I'll let the bibtex folks speak to that perspective, but ... > E.g., > > "parens" or "p" -> citep ... in the start of my mapping table, I suggest this as default. This may be a CSL bias though. > "text" or "t" -> citet (default?) > "pf" or "parens-full" -> citep* > > What about alt, alp, alt*, alt*, and all Cite variants? > > It is possible to include sub-styles, e.g., I agree it would be better to allow variants, because it would make it easier to have the top level consistent among export processors (and therefore better for users in the end), without ending up with long lists of style names that only apply to, say, biblatex. Bruce