Dear All, experimenting with the 'basic' citation backend I noticed that the default author-year citation style (and its derived variants, like text and year) does not perform citation disambiguation for items that have the same author and year. E.g. the Org document --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- #+cite_export: basic author-year author-year First: [cite:@disamb1examp] Second: [cite:@disamb2examp] --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- is exported as --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- First: (Doe, John, 1973) Second: (Doe, John, 1973) Doe, John (1973). /Minor Work/, Journal of Philosophy. Doe, John (1973). /Magnum Opus/, Journal of Philosophy. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- which makes it impossible to identify the cited item. Perhaps the most widespread solution to this problem is to add so called year-suffixes to the year to disambiguate: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- First: (Doe, John, 1973a) Second: (Doe, John, 1973b) Doe, John (1973a). /Minor Work/, Journal of Philosophy. Doe, John (1973b). /Magnum Opus/, Journal of Philosophy. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I think some kind of disambiguation strategy should be implemented for the basic citation backend to be really usable with the author-year style. WDYT? best regards, András
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 5:13 PM András Simonyi <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think some kind of disambiguation strategy should be implemented for
> the basic citation backend to be really usable with the author-year
> style. WDYT?
I hadn't tested that, but I agree.
As you know, disambiguation can get complicated, but that approach is
easy low-hanging fruit.
Bruce
Hello,
András Simonyi <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> writes:
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> First: (Doe, John, 1973a)
>
> Second: (Doe, John, 1973b)
>
> Doe, John (1973a). /Minor Work/, Journal of Philosophy.
>
> Doe, John (1973b). /Magnum Opus/, Journal of Philosophy.
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> I think some kind of disambiguation strategy should be implemented for
> the basic citation backend to be really usable with the author-year
> style. WDYT?
Implemented in latest wip-cite-new branch.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
Dear All, On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 at 23:06, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote: > > I think some kind of disambiguation strategy should be implemented for > > the basic citation backend to be really usable with the author-year > > style. WDYT? > > Implemented in latest wip-cite-new branch. > > Regards, Thanks, this is amazing! I was trying to look into it, but the latest commit I see at https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/commits/wip-cite-new is from a week ago. Is there a different location from which I can pull this update? thanks again, András
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 784 bytes --] I believe he rebased it and modified the history? So same branch. On Sun, Jun 6, 2021, 7:36 AM András Simonyi <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > > On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 at 23:06, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> > wrote: > > > > I think some kind of disambiguation strategy should be implemented for > > > the basic citation backend to be really usable with the author-year > > > style. WDYT? > > > > Implemented in latest wip-cite-new branch. > > > > Regards, > > Thanks, this is amazing! I was trying to look into it, but the latest > commit I see at > https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/commits/wip-cite-new is from a > week ago. Is there a different location from which I can pull this > update? > > thanks again, > András > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1331 bytes --]
Thanks, this was the case, now the basic processor disambiguates the citations.
On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 at 14:19, Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I believe he rebased it and modified the history? So same branch.
>
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021, 7:36 AM András Simonyi <andras.simonyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 at 23:06, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
>>
>> > > I think some kind of disambiguation strategy should be implemented for
>> > > the basic citation backend to be really usable with the author-year
>> > > style. WDYT?
>> >
>> > Implemented in latest wip-cite-new branch.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>>
>> Thanks, this is amazing! I was trying to look into it, but the latest
>> commit I see at
>> https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/commits/wip-cite-new is from a
>> week ago. Is there a different location from which I can pull this
>> update?
>>
>> thanks again,
>> András
>>