From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Alan E. Davis" Subject: Re: Yet another question about email and org-mode Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 10:48:29 -0800 Message-ID: References: <87bo37cyzx.fsf@gmail.com> <20131002211030.GT2622@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> <87ob76nxvl.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0158b878b4cc8204ea727bb2 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54487) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdlgM-00058h-2M for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 13:48:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdlgJ-0001sI-SK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 13:48:53 -0500 Received: from mail-lb0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::231]:33439) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VdlgJ-0001s6-EZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 13:48:51 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f177.google.com with SMTP id u14so6737586lbd.8 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 10:48:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87ob76nxvl.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: org-mode --089e0158b878b4cc8204ea727bb2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I appreciate the input, but did not understand how to make my case work. Thank you to those who responded so unselfishly. I thought I would now dredge up the thread to redirect this, and a couple of other questions about email. All I want it a copy of my outgoing email and threads thereof (I use Gmail) to be present on my system, so I can search easily. I discovered the variable "message-send-rename function" which should make it relatively easy to set something up. I envision recovering the name of the recipient from the first lines of the message, or else just using the email address as a postfix to save the message in a certain directory, easily accessible from org-mode. Incidentally, the function "oog" was useful to me for a long time, but for a long while I have been unable to use it. Everytime the following message is typed out in the minibuffer: Wrong type argument: markerp, nil. Another recent issue for me was that my message buffer wasn't saved, when an unusual event happend on my Arch Linux box, using openbox window manager: emacs locked up, when I was editing a message. It was a long letter related to an employment application, and, as far as I've been able to discover, it was not autosaved at any time duirng the editing of this message (an your or two.) Unusual, especially when I not that an autosave directory has been enabled for messages, by default. I would like to ask whether someone who understands email can give some advice about these three issues? Alan On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote: > Suvayu Ali writes: > > > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:24:18AM -0700, Josiah Schwab wrote: > >> Hi Alan, > >> > > > >> > I am happy to use native emacs mail, for sending email. What I want > to be > >> > able to do is keep a copy of my email in an org-mode file. > >> > >> Taking a step back, is there a reason that you want to keep a copy of > >> the email contents in the org file, as opposed to including a link to > >> the email message? > > > > I would ask the same question. Specially when Org supports so many URI > > schemes for emails: gnus, mhe, rmail, notmuch, vm, vm-imap, wl. Even > > simple file links to maildirs would work too. If you like the Gmail web > > interface, linking to that is also possible! > > or, to turn it around completely, what about defining an org backend > for gnus, i.e. nnorg, which stores emails using org format, modelled > along the nnmbox backend [[info:(gnus) Unix Mail Box]]? You could then > use the GCC gnus header. > > only partly in jest... ;-) > > -- > : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.50.1, Org release_8.1.1-7-gaecdf5 > > > --089e0158b878b4cc8204ea727bb2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I appreciate the input, but did not understand how to= make my case work.=A0 Thank you to those who responded so unselfishly.=A0= =A0 I thought I would now dredge up the thread to redirect this, and a coup= le of other questions about email.

All I want it a copy of my outgoing email and threads thereo= f (I use Gmail) to be present on my system, so I can search easily.=A0=A0 I= discovered the variable "message-send-rename function" which sho= uld make it relatively easy to set something up.=A0 I envision recovering t= he name of the recipient from the first lines of the message, or else just = using the email address as a postfix to save the message in a certain direc= tory, easily accessible from org-mode.=A0=A0

Incidentally, the function "oog" was useful to me for a long = time, but for a long while I have been unable to use it.=A0 Everytime the f= ollowing message is typed out in the minibuffer:=A0 Wrong type argument: ma= rkerp, nil.

Another recent issue for me was that my message buffer wasn&= #39;t saved, when an unusual event happend on my Arch Linux box, using open= box window manager: emacs locked up, when I was editing a message.=A0 It wa= s a long letter related to an employment application, and, as far as I'= ve been able to discover, it was not autosaved at any time duirng the editi= ng of this message (an your or two.)=A0=A0 Unusual, especially when I not t= hat an autosave directory has been enabled for messages, by default.

I would like to ask whether someone who understands email ca= n give some advice about these three issues?

Alan
=A0


On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:24:18AM -0700, Josiah Schwab wrote:
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>
>> > I am happy to use native emacs mail, for sending email. =A0Wh= at I want to be
>> > able to do is keep a copy of my email in an org-mode file. >>
>> Taking a step back, is there a reason that you want to keep a copy= of
>> the email contents in the org file, as opposed to including a link= to
>> the email message?
>
> I would ask the same question. =A0Specially when Org supports so many = URI
> schemes for emails: gnus, mhe, rmail, notmuch, vm, vm-imap, wl. =A0Eve= n
> simple file links to maildirs would work too. =A0If you like the Gmail= web
> interface, linking to that is also possible!

or, to turn it around completely, what about defining an org ba= ckend
for gnus, i.e. nnorg, which stores emails using org format, modelled
along the nnmbox backend [[info:(gnus) Unix Mail Box]]? =A0You could then use the GCC gnus header.

only partly in jest... ;-)

--
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.50.1, Org release_8.1.1-7-gaecdf5


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