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From: Jonathan Leech-Pepin <jonathan.leechpepin@gmail.com>
To: Rainer@krugs.de
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>, Oleh <ohwoeowho@gmail.com>,
	"ess-help@r-project.org" <ess-help@r-project.org>
Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcut - is there a principle behind them?
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 07:22:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEWDx5ffHLHpv=5jNHp_FAP4aPNQaur+tkg1nQa+gT=OcG_c2A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52A1A074.9090601@krugs.de>

Hello,

On 6 December 2013 05:01, Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de> wrote:
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> On 12/06/13, 10:49 , Oleh wrote:
>> Initially the shortcuts were mnemonic, e.g. C-e:
>> `move-end-of-line'. Obviously the keys ran out pretty quick.
>
> I can really imagine. But this explains some - but following your
> example: C-a moves to the beginning of the line - the only "a" there
> is in "Anfang", which is German for "beginning". So only partial luck
> here.

I can't speak for the original developers however my take on this one
is as follows:

C-b (for beginning) is used for "back"
C-s (for start) is used for "search", C-f (find) was "forward".
C-a becomes beginning-of-line by virtue of being the beginning of the alphabet.

Regards,
Jonathan

>> Now only few shortcuts are reserved for user space and plugins, the
>> most notable of which is the `C-c` prefix. That's why most custom
>> modes such as org-mode and ESS bind to shortcuts with `C-c` prefix:
>> there's a convention that Emacs core will not use `C-c`.
>
> Ah - very good to know.
>
>>
>> A nice way of remembering shortcuts only when you need them is to
>> call commands by name with `M-x`. After a while, when you note that
>> you're using one particular command a lot, you'll want to learn the
>> shortcut for it.
>
> That's how I do it - but it involves learning sequences which do not
> make any sense to me - and I am sure there is some sense in the
> sequence, at least within each mode.
>
>>
>> There's one package that might be of good use to you: `smex'. It
>> uses ido completion for `M-x`. You can install it from
>> MELPA/Marmelade. It binds automatically to `M-x` when you install,
>> although I recommend: (global-set-key "\C-t" 'smex)
>
> Yes - smex and ido are *very* useful - I do not know how one can use
> emacs without them.
>
>>
>> As an example, say you want to tangle. Here's what you do: C-t
>> tang Now you see a bunch of rectangle commands mixed into the
>> bunch. You can filter them out by noting that tangle commands have
>> `org` in their name. C-SPC org C-SPC Now there's only 7 candidates
>> left and you can select the one you want with C-m either by cycling
>> with C-s or continuing to type part of name.
>>
>> `smex` logs the commands you use most. For them it usually takes
>> less than 2-3 characters from the name to be recognized. E.g. if
>> you use `org-babel-tangle` a lot, you can usually call it with C-t
>> bab C-m.
>
> Very true and very useful.
>
>>
>> Finally note that no shortcuts are set in stone. You can customize
>> all of them if you want to do so. For instance, and probably a lot
>> of people will disagree, it doesn't make sense for me to have
>> `previous-line' on C-p. So I swap C-p and C-h: (keyboard-translate
>> ?\C-h ?\C-p) (keyboard-translate ?\C-p ?\C-h)
>
> Absolutely true - but I usually try to keep the customization to a
> minimum and to use the defaults.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rainer
>
>>
>> Oleh
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de>
>> wrote: Hi
>>
>> one alternative subject could be "because it is Friday"...
>>
>> I am using org-mode and ess regularly, and I use quite a few
>> keyboard shortcuts, but each time I read about a new one, I am
>> wondering: why the heck these specific (default!) keyboard
>> shortcuts?
>>
>> I am not asking why keyboard sequence, but e.g. why "export" in org
>> is C-c e and why tangle is C-c C-v t, and so on.
>>
>> In other words: I am trying to *understand* why C-c and not C-o,
>> because I have tremendous problems to remember the shortcuts - if
>> I would know that there is s tree structure, where each following
>> key narrows it down to further *thematically linked* commands, it
>> would make it easier to learn these.
>>
>> Any insight into this? Or is there a emacs function which returns
>> a random keyboard shortcut for a given function (some emacs
>> shortcuts really seem to be that way...).
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rainer
>>
>>
>>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-06 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-06  9:02 Keyboard shortcut - is there a principle behind them? Rainer M Krug
2013-12-06  9:49 ` Oleh
2013-12-06 10:01   ` Rainer M Krug
2013-12-06 12:22     ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin [this message]
2013-12-06 14:49     ` [ESS] " Tyler Smith
2013-12-06 22:56 ` Vitalie Spinu
2013-12-07  6:35 ` Matthew Fidler
2013-12-09  9:01   ` [ESS] " Rainer M Krug

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