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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1634772869; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=A2VX7uUyXBUMpcJEZPSgDTwclUMAAlJItvAISQR/r40=; b=P5hbsfW7GR1lZhmjlOcAGCJ8ZkA53A/EhFxfE/twSVpPOHTBLdrCT1I7k973moq0uC8rLq dxr4GTIcEKAZtAjy+gOuDpd4nLxZHnBGkgkt0h/w4z1Rm/t0dIzJpCW05V2MInnSxYG1xI 2KHFOUGJBPz7jj2Dq4NLO1KfeGEOLKKRUdu+TcHbPU0IhovayvxlXGV4PwnkL44AOjiN6j aARL7+jsRzTp3f2Az9SM0uvzlsi/iDNjgWKTbGf9jXtprsDzWgd6ztlZDY4nsF/+9/FLaE J0x//gSMM2ve2F9vVYgDrSlz9VyX+jRG9qdfnA9Hq8ymKusQAplLxN11NfoyUA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1634772869; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Bi+Jl1jTOoO92sxvfrq6EJFDOcEjowRNoMYiO2H+Z1O7mFIlotWJHa+6lX7Tta9RRPcVHh sOH+MguKvul8CnzG+UOqdQCn2ct+17ei+3aM90SgVuItEV7CfKkBlfPlOazlFZF5YJrAPW JoRcmWDr66QMtKQkbpYxzHSwMrZ8PiC4F/VuLgzXNwwXJYx6KYwwcHY7tIBJjQnB2rC0Fq 0QxNNsobbjy9DLxpVrgsWhlB5+8cgC1KIVOXFcdxAvnJwQxBJxaL0bOfRZSlY7HuPl8YFN KaZgSWPC5VqbJ+XBH7rKAWU41GQe+3Wg0aCNBbl03iE7K09Bme8z1vpzWI/ggA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=H3J19vL4; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=H3J19vL4; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 15EFD27382 X-Spam-Score: -3.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 9WavQE7H+8HS Hi all, I find the instructions about bug reporting in [1] lacking a heads-up that subscription to the mailing list is a (soft?) prerequisite. It's true that it links to [2] which states: You can subscribe to the list from this web page. If you are not a member of the mailing list, your mail will be passed to the list after a moderator has approved but also it's true [3] states: The Org mailing list is a members only mailing list to prevent spam. Membership is freely available and only requires that you subscribe to the list and confirm your email address. Moreover, that it seemingly is a soft requirement implies that I'm not getting any feedback for some time about the status of my report. All this ended up in that, after some years, I reported a bug again but from an alternative address following the instructions in [1], but without reading [2], and since hours later I wasn't seeing my report in the list I checked [3], subscribe to the list and resent the report, which probably will arrive twice now, except that a moderator catches the dup. I reckon that I could have been more careful regarding [2] but still the instructions in [1] are somewhat misleading and I would say that [3] just contradicts [2], whatever is true. What do you think of: - Adding some brief mention to subscription in [1]. - Resolve the apparent contradiction about subscription being a prerequisite or not between [2] and [3]. Best regards, Carlos --- [1] https://orgmode.org/worg/org-issues.html [2] https://orgmode.org/org.html#Feedback [3] https://orgmode.org/worg/org-mailing-list.html