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* Drupal syntax on html-export for image links
@ 2012-05-24  4:55 William Crandall
  2012-05-24  9:01 ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: William Crandall @ 2012-05-24  4:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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Hello,

I'm drafting pages for publication on a Drupal website.

I've set up a draft-review cycle using Org-mode and some
simplified CSS, for a light-weight type-and-read process.

When I'm happy with the text, I'd like to cut-and-paste
from the generated html output directly into Drupal.

Links to external http files work fine, but image links
(and internal links) are confounding me.

--------------------------------------------------

Drupal inline image syntax is:

  <img src="/sites/default/files/images/BC.png" alt="BC">

Default Org-mode html-export, for  [[/sites/a.png]]  seems to be:

  <img src="file://g:/sites/a.png"  alt="file://g:/sites/a.png" />


Which really won't do. Before hauling out my wheel-creation
tools, has anyone created a "Drupal-link type" for Org-mode?
Or some other solution?

--------------------------------------------------

I found one Drupal thread in the archives:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2009-11/msg00473.html

But I don't need or want to "push the button" and publish.
I'd just like to modify the html-export output for images.
(And then adapt that to internal links.)

--------------------------------------------------

Thanks for any suggestions or references.
And for Org-mode, which is great!

-BC

Org-mode: 7.8.09
Emacs: 24.1.50.1
Windows 7

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* Re: Drupal syntax on html-export for image links
  2012-05-24  4:55 Drupal syntax on html-export for image links William Crandall
@ 2012-05-24  9:01 ` Bastien
  2012-05-27  4:43   ` William Crandall
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-05-24  9:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: William Crandall; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi William,

William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com> writes:

> Drupal inline image syntax is:
>
>   <img src="/sites/default/files/images/BC.png" alt="BC">
>
> Default Org-mode html-export, for  [[/sites/a.png]]  seems to be:
>
>   <img src="file://g:/sites/a.png"  alt="file://g:/sites/a.png" />

Nicolas export engine does it right :

  <img src="/sites/a.png"  alt="a.png"/>

To use it, please pull from the git master repository then

- add the "contrib/" directory to your load-path
- (require 'org-export)
- M-x org-export-dispatch h

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: Drupal syntax on html-export for image links
  2012-05-24  9:01 ` Bastien
@ 2012-05-27  4:43   ` William Crandall
  2012-05-27  7:35     ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2012-05-27 12:37     ` Jambunathan K
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: William Crandall @ 2012-05-27  4:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

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Hello Bastien,

Thanks for your pointer to org-export!

I got it running and see it is an improvement.

Reading the archives, I've gathered some notions.
(Please correct me if I'm wrong!)

Is it true that:

1. The org-export Package is a "Generic Export Engine"
   and is intended to support a new generation of
   org export tools (to HTML, LaTeX, ODT, etc).

2. It is now an "experimental" Contributed Package:
   http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib

3. The current (old) export command (C-c C-e) executes
   a function called "org-export" in org-exp.el (line 943)
   but it is not related to the new org-export package.

4. API documentation for the new org-export, and it's family
   (org-e-ascii.el, org-e-html.el, org-e-latex.el, org-e-odt.el
   org-e-publish.el org-element.el), is here:
   http://orgmode.org/worg/org-api/

5. Documentation for back-end developers working on new
   export tools is here:
   http://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-export-reference.html

6. Current org tutorials describe the old tool set, e.g.,
   "Publishing Org-mode files to HTML", not the new:
   http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-publish-html-tutorial.html

7. No end-user documentation for the org-export package
   has been created, describing for example, how to link
   to an external CSS file (as #+STYLE used to work).

8. "The Manual" does not (yet) document the org-export package:
   http://orgmode.org/manual/index.html

9. This mailing list is the best place to ask questions.

------------------------------------------------------------


Even if it's not a full BNF, and "only" 98% as Nicolas says,
a quasi-complete grammar is a really good place to start, or
re-start, building a "spaghetti-free" export system, IMO.


------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------


Turning to my immediate challenge, exporting to html,
I have some questions ( M-x org-export-dispatch h ):


1. UTF-8

How can I change the encoding, which defaults to:

   <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>

I set org-export-coding-system:

   (setq org-export-coding-system 'utf-8)

And now:

   org-export-coding-system is a variable defined in `org-export.el'.
   Its value is utf-8
   Original value was nil

But the exported html file still shows iso-8859-1


--------------------------------------------------

2. CSS

I used to link to an external style file thus:

   #+STYLE: <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="css/about.css" />

What syntax works now?


--------------------------------------------------

3. Configuring paths to images

   #+ATTR_HTML: alt="BC Crandall"
   [[/sites/a.png]]

Exports to:

   <img src="g:/sites/a.png" alt="BC Crandall"/></p>

One win; one fail.

#+ATTR_HTML: works fine!

But I'd like the path to be  <img src="/sites/a.png" ..
without  "g:"


--------------------------------------------------

4. Paths to files

   [[/sites/my-file][My link]]

Exports to:

   <a href="file://g:/sites/my-file">My link</a>

How can I keep the path "as it was", and get this:

   <a href="/sites/my-file">My link</a>

without "file://g:"


--------------------------------------------------

5. Removing Pre- and Postamble

What now works like:

   (setq org-export-html-preamble nil)
   (setq org-export-html-postamble nil)

Now, there is no preamble.

The postamble is:

   <div id="postamble">
   <p class="date"> Date: 2012-05-26 20:59:51 Pacific Daylight Time </p>
   <p class="author"> Author : William BC Crandall</p>
   <p class="creator"> Generated by Org mode 7.8.11 in Emacs 24.1.50.1. </p>
      <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer">Validate XHTML
1.0</a>
   </div>

I'd like to remove both.


--------------------------------------------------


6. Special strings

I was able to get a TM (&trade) in the old system with:

(eval-after-load "org"
  '(setq org-export-html-special-string-regexps
     (append org-export-html-special-string-regexps
         '(("-TM-" . "&trade;")))))

How now?


--------------------------------------------------

Thanks for any pointers or suggestions!

And thanks to everyone working on this.

-BC

Org-mode: 7.8.11
Emacs: 24.1.50.1
Windows 7




On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:

> Hi William,
>
> William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Drupal inline image syntax is:
> >
> >   <img src="/sites/default/files/images/BC.png" alt="BC">
> >
> > Default Org-mode html-export, for  [[/sites/a.png]]  seems to be:
> >
> >   <img src="file://g:/sites/a.png"  alt="file://g:/sites/a.png" />
>
> Nicolas export engine does it right :
>
>  <img src="/sites/a.png"  alt="a.png"/>
>
> To use it, please pull from the git master repository then
>
> - add the "contrib/" directory to your load-path
> - (require 'org-export)
> - M-x org-export-dispatch h
>
> HTH,
>
> --
>  Bastien
>

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* Re: Drupal syntax on html-export for image links
  2012-05-27  4:43   ` William Crandall
@ 2012-05-27  7:35     ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2012-05-27 12:41       ` Jambunathan K
  2012-05-27 12:37     ` Jambunathan K
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2012-05-27  7:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: William Crandall; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode

Hello,

William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com> writes:

> Is it true that:
>
> 1. The org-export Package is a "Generic Export Engine"
>    and is intended to support a new generation of
>    org export tools (to HTML, LaTeX, ODT, etc).

Correct.

> 2. It is now an "experimental" Contributed Package:
>    http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib

Correct.

> 3. The current (old) export command (C-c C-e) executes
>    a function called "org-export" in org-exp.el (line 943)
>    but it is not related to the new org-export package.

Correct.

> 4. API documentation for the new org-export, and it's family
>    (org-e-ascii.el, org-e-html.el, org-e-latex.el, org-e-odt.el
>    org-e-publish.el org-element.el), is here:
>    http://orgmode.org/worg/org-api/

Correct, but be warned that some functions in org-exp.el use org-export-*
prefix and might be found under "org-export" section.

> 5. Documentation for back-end developers working on new
>    export tools is here:
>    http://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-export-reference.html

Correct.

> 6. Current org tutorials describe the old tool set, e.g.,
>    "Publishing Org-mode files to HTML", not the new:
>    http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-publish-html-tutorial.html

Correct.

> 7. No end-user documentation for the org-export package
>    has been created, describing for example, how to link
>    to an external CSS file (as #+STYLE used to work).

Correct.

> 8. "The Manual" does not (yet) document the org-export package:
>    http://orgmode.org/manual/index.html

Correct.

> 9. This mailing list is the best place to ask questions.

Correct.



> Turning to my immediate challenge, exporting to html,
> I have some questions ( M-x org-export-dispatch h ):

Since I don't maintain `e-html' back-end, I'll only answer partially.

> 5. Removing Pre- and Postamble
>
> What now works like:
>
>    (setq org-export-html-preamble nil)
>    (setq org-export-html-postamble nil)
>
> Now, there is no preamble.
>
> The postamble is:
>
>    <div id="postamble">
>    <p class="date"> Date: 2012-05-26 20:59:51 Pacific Daylight Time </p>
>    <p class="author"> Author : William BC Crandall</p>
>    <p class="creator"> Generated by Org mode 7.8.11 in Emacs 24.1.50.1. </p>
>       <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer">Validate XHTML
> 1.0</a>
>    </div>
>
> I'd like to remove both.

You may have a look at `org-e-html-preamble' and `org-e-html-postamble'
variables.

> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> 6. Special strings
>
> I was able to get a TM (&trade) in the old system with:
>
> (eval-after-load "org"
>   '(setq org-export-html-special-string-regexps
>      (append org-export-html-special-string-regexps
>          '(("-TM-" . "&trade;")))))
>
> How now?

You can add a filter to plain text objects, which will only be applied
to `e-html' back-end:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(defun my-html-trademark-markup (text backend info)
  (if (not (eq back-end 'e-html)) text
    (replace-regexp-in-string "-TM-" "&trade;" text)))

(add-to-list 'org-export-filter-plain-text-functions
             'my-html-trademark-markup)
#+end_src

Though, I would suggest to use entity \trade instead.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* Re: Drupal syntax on html-export for image links
  2012-05-27  4:43   ` William Crandall
  2012-05-27  7:35     ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2012-05-27 12:37     ` Jambunathan K
  2012-05-27 16:00       ` William Crandall
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jambunathan K @ 2012-05-27 12:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: William Crandall; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode


The exporter is new.  Needless to say there are bugs, known and
unknown. (Think, "Rome wasn't built in a day")

I have fixed few things.  I will respond later for unresolved other
things in your list.

> 7. No end-user documentation for the org-export package
>    has been created, describing for example, how to link
>    to an external CSS file (as #+STYLE used to work).

This is fixed now.  

> 8. "The Manual" does not (yet) document the org-export package:
>    http://orgmode.org/manual/index.html

The new exporter should behave exactly the same way as the old one.
Otherwise, it is a bug.

For all practical purposes, 
  M-x customize-group RET org-export-e-html RET 
should suffice.

Note that the defcustoms have `org-e-html-' as prefix. (Note the "e" in
"e-html")

> 1. UTF-8
>
> How can I change the encoding, which defaults to:

Use `org-e-html-coding-system'.

> --------------------------------------------------
>
> 2. CSS
>
> I used to link to an external style file thus:
>
>    #+STYLE: <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="css/
> about.css" />
>
> What syntax works now?

This is fixed.

> 5. Removing Pre- and Postamble
>
> What now works like:
>
>    (setq org-export-html-preamble nil)
>    (setq org-export-html-postamble nil)
>
> Now, there is no preamble.
>
> The postamble is:
>
>    <div id="postamble">
>    <p class="date"> Date: 2012-05-26 20:59:51 Pacific Daylight Time
> </p>
>    <p class="author"> Author : William BC Crandall</p>
>    <p class="creator"> Generated by Org mode 7.8.11 in Emacs
> 24.1.50.1. </p>
>       <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer">Validate
> XHTML 1.0</a>
>    </div>
>
> I'd like to remove both.

Use `org-e-html-preamble' and `org-e-html-postamble'.


> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> 6. Special strings
>
> I was able to get a TM (&trade) in the old system with:
>
> (eval-after-load "org"
>   '(setq org-export-html-special-string-regexps
>      (append org-export-html-special-string-regexps
>          '(("-TM-" . "&trade;")))))
>
> How now?

Nicolas has responded to this question.

FYI, `org-export-html-special-string-regexps' becomes
`org-e-html-special-string-regexps'.



> 3. Configuring paths to images
>
>    #+ATTR_HTML: alt="BC Crandall"
>    [[/sites/a.png]]
>
> Exports to:
>
>    <img src="g:/sites/a.png" alt="BC Crandall"/></p>
>
> One win; one fail.
>
> #+ATTR_HTML: works fine!
>
> But I'd like the path to be  <img src="/sites/a.png" ..
> without  "g:"
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> 4. Paths to files
>
>    [[/sites/my-file][My link]]
>
> Exports to:
>
>    <a href="file://g:/sites/my-file">My link</a>
>
> How can I keep the path "as it was", and get this:
>
>    <a href="/sites/my-file">My link</a>
>
> without "file://g:"
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>

I will respond to 3 and 4 separately.  I need to look at this area
closely. (I know nothing about HTML or HTML exporter.)

What is "g:/" here.  Is it the publishing directory or the current
directory.  Given that, does removing the leading "g:/" a specific
requirement of yours or is it generally useful to anyone.

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* Re: Drupal syntax on html-export for image links
  2012-05-27  7:35     ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2012-05-27 12:41       ` Jambunathan K
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jambunathan K @ 2012-05-27 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode, William Crandall

> Since I don't maintain `e-html' back-end, I'll only answer partially.

I don't want to take over the maintainership of org-e-html.  

What I am saying is that, anyone with commit access to Orgmode - this
includes me - can fix or patch up org-e-html without it being routed via
me.

+1 to Bastien for recommending the use of org-e-html.
-- 

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* Re: Drupal syntax on html-export for image links
  2012-05-27 12:37     ` Jambunathan K
@ 2012-05-27 16:00       ` William Crandall
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: William Crandall @ 2012-05-27 16:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jambunathan K; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode

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Hello Nicolas and Jambunathan,

Many thanks, to you both, for such quick and detailed responses!

I look forward to checking things out later today.

And yes, +1 to Bastien for recommending!


Regarding your notes on image and file paths:

JK> I will respond to 3 and 4 separately.  I need to look at
JK> this area closely. (I know nothing about HTML or HTML exporter.)

JK> What is "g:/" here.  Is it the publishing directory or
JK> the current directory.  Given that, does removing the leading
JK> "g:/" a specific requirement of yours or is it generally useful
JK> to anyone.

The "g:/" is a Windows artifact, indicating the  drive. On Unix
systems, root "/" is unique; on Windows there can be many drives
indicated by letters at the root (c:/, d:/, .. z:/). The most common
default for first hard disk is "c:/", but other letters are often used.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drive_letter_assignment

I think that it would be generally useful to be able to remove
the drive letter, so that c:/ or g:/ is transposed into just /
so that when the link-string is passed to a publishing system,
such as Drupal, it can easily digest it for further processing.

Thanks again for all your work on this!

-BC


On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> The exporter is new.  Needless to say there are bugs, known and
> unknown. (Think, "Rome wasn't built in a day")
>

[. . .]


> > 3. Configuring paths to images
> >
> >    #+ATTR_HTML: alt="BC Crandall"
> >    [[/sites/a.png]]
> >
> > Exports to:
> >
> >    <img src="g:/sites/a.png" alt="BC Crandall"/></p>
> >
> > One win; one fail.
> >
> > #+ATTR_HTML: works fine!
> >
> > But I'd like the path to be  <img src="/sites/a.png" ..
> > without  "g:"
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> >
> > 4. Paths to files
> >
> >    [[/sites/my-file][My link]]
> >
> > Exports to:
> >
> >    <a href="file://g:/sites/my-file">My link</a>
> >
> > How can I keep the path "as it was", and get this:
> >
> >    <a href="/sites/my-file">My link</a>
> >
> > without "file://g:"
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> >
>
> I will respond to 3 and 4 separately.  I need to look at this area
> closely. (I know nothing about HTML or HTML exporter.)
>
> What is "g:/" here.  Is it the publishing directory or the current
> directory.  Given that, does removing the leading "g:/" a specific
> requirement of yours or is it generally useful to anyone.
>

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