From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Iannis Zannos Subject: Re: SCHEDULED property behavior not compatible with habits? Confused: How to make this work? #orgmode Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 03:08:24 +0300 Message-ID: References: <20130929012947.3a3652c8@aga-netbook> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b62226ca5c44204e77a84d0 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45542) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VQ4Yl-0002yi-5o for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 20:08:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VQ4Yj-0001Tl-KW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 20:08:27 -0400 Received: from mail-ee0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:4013:c00::229]:52987) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VQ4Yj-0001Te-9E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 20:08:25 -0400 Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id d17so1936200eek.28 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 17:08:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130929012947.3a3652c8@aga-netbook> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Marcin Borkowski Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --047d7b62226ca5c44204e77a84d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Marcin Thanks, for the answer. (setq org-habit-show-habits-only-for-today nil) did the trick. Perhaps this should go into the manual ... Best, Iannis Z. On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Marcin Borkowski wro= te: > Dnia 2013-09-29, o godz. 02:21:55 > Iannis Zannos napisa=C5=82(a): > > > Hello, > > > > having tried out the "habits" module after studying the manual on > > TODOs and scheduling, I cannot make habits work. Reason: > > > > When I set the :SCHEDULED: property of a node with a repetition > > interval such as: <2013-09-27 Fri .+1d>, then changing the TODO > > status from TODO to DONE will > > > > 1. change the status back to TODO (so that the item stays > > scheduled for a next time) > > 2. change the date of SCHEDULED to one day after the date of > > completion of the task > > > > This is consistent with the description in the manual at 8.3.2 > > Repeated tasks, and makes sense. However, it interferes with habits, > > because it changes the date from which the tracking of the habit > > repetition of the task is being tracked. This means that this node > > disappears from the habit display in the agenda. Also, it undoes the > > configured logging mechanism (for example, note+timestamp for DONE > > state. > > > > Am I overseeing something? Surely it must be my mistake. I saw habits > > at work in the chat of Sacha Chua with Bastien Guerry ( > > > http://sachachua.com/blog/2013/07/emacs-chat-sacha-chua-with-bastien-guer= ry/ > ) > > and was quite impressed. But I could not repeat the same results as I > > saw on Sacha's screen. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Iannis Zannos > > Tip 1: try setting org-habit-show-habits-only-for-today to nil (or > waiting until tomorrow;)). > > Tip 2: it seems you mustn't track changes /into/ a TODO state, only > into DONE. See note at the bottom here: > http://mbork.pl/2013-09-23_Automatic_insertion_of_habit_templates_%28en%2= 9 > > Hth, > > -- > Marcin Borkowski > http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski > Adam Mickiewicz University > > --047d7b62226ca5c44204e77a84d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Marcin
Thanks, for the answer= .
(setq org-habit-show-habits-only-for-today nil)
did the trick.=C2=A0
Perhaps this should go into the m= anual ...

Best,=C2=A0
Iannis Z.=C2=A0=


O= n Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl<= /a>> wrote:
Dnia 2013-09-29, o godz. 02:21:55
Iannis Zannos <
zannos@gmail.com&= gt; napisa=C5=82(a):

> Hello,
>
> having tried out the "habits" module after studying the manu= al on
> TODOs and scheduling, I cannot make habits work. Reason:
>
> When I set the :SCHEDULED: property of a node with a repetition
> interval such as: <2013-09-27 Fri .+1d>, then changing the TODO<= br> > status from TODO to DONE will
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A01. change the status back to TODO (so that the item= stays
> scheduled for a next time)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A02. change the date of SCHEDULED to one day after th= e date of
> completion of the task
>
> This is consistent with the description in the manual at 8.3.2
> Repeated tasks, and makes sense. However, it interferes with habits, > because it changes the date from which the tracking of the habit
> repetition of the task is being tracked. This means that this node
> disappears from the habit display in the agenda. Also, it undoes the > configured logging mechanism (for example, note+timestamp for DONE
> state.
>
> Am I overseeing something? Surely it must be my mistake. I saw habits<= br> > at work in the chat of Sacha Chua with Bastien Guerry (
> http://sachachua.com/blog/2013/07/emac= s-chat-sacha-chua-with-bastien-guerry/)
> and was quite impressed. But I could not repeat the same results as I<= br> > saw on Sacha's screen.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Iannis Zannos

Tip 1: try setting org-habit-show-habits-only-for-today to nil (or waiting until tomorrow;)).

Tip 2: it seems you mustn't track changes /into/ a TODO state, only
into DONE. =C2=A0See note at the bottom here:
http://mbork.pl/2013-09-23_Automatic_insertio= n_of_habit_templates_%28en%29

Hth,

--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University


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