From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Peter Salazar Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] almost giving up on emacs email..looking for advice? Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 23:13:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87egjgyo09.fsf@gmail.com> <6sw6c7vbcmypwh.fsf@dhcp-6-148.hmco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0160bdbc2a6a7b051d149bf3 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56311) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPMU5-0006ps-Pm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 23:13:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPMU4-0007Ta-CI for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 23:13:45 -0400 Received: from mail-pd0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22b]:34546) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPMU4-0007TV-0z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 23:13:44 -0400 Received: by pdbfa8 with SMTP id fa8so2188771pdb.1 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:13:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6sw6c7vbcmypwh.fsf@dhcp-6-148.hmco.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Peter Davis , fabrice.popineau@supelec.fr Cc: org mode --089e0160bdbc2a6a7b051d149bf3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Like Fabrice, I also still process my email using the Gmail web interface. The only reason I want email within Emacs is so I can compose replies in a proper editor with all my keybindings. I tried Chrome's Edit with Emacs, but it loses line breaks when it sends the output from Emacs back to Gmail. So I prefer to write replies within Emacs. Since I only need a small fraction of my emails to go through Emacs, I set up mbsync to pull only my starred messages: Channel gmail-starred Master :gmail-remote:"[Gmail]/Starred" Slave :gmail-local:starred Create Both Expunge Both SyncState * If this is of interest to you I can share my setup. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Peter Davis wrote: > Fabrice Popineau writes: > > > On this thread, I will report quite a different user experience. > > I have been a long time user of emacs and Gnus (Emacs since 1987). > > I have been using (ding) Gnus under Windows NT in the late 90's and up > > to about 2010. > > > > But now, I process my mail using the GMail browser interface. > > The reasons are mostly due to : > > - emacs is slow, chrome displays email more precisely and more quickly > > - emacs is not multi-threaded, hence it may get stuck processing > > stuff. > > Using the browser to process mail allows me not to be disturbed when > > I'm writing documents or programming using Emacs. > > > > I'll keep and eye on the solutions that have been reported here > > though. > > Interesting. I use a variety of email clients, mainly browser-based ones > (GMail, Fastmail), Thunderbird, and gnus. I keep gnus in > the arsenal for three main reasons: > > 1) I can do everything quickly without having to move my hands from the > keyboard. If there isn't already a shortcut for what I want, > I can add one. > > 2) I need a decent editor for replies. I have not found a browser-based > client that has this. > > 3) To bring this somewhat back on topic, I've recently discovered org > capture, and I love the fact that I can capture a note with a > link to a specific email message. > > That last feature alone is reason enough for me. FWIW, I'm on a Mac, and > I generally use Gnu emacs for editing, programming, etc., > and use Aquamacs for running gnus. This avoids any latency problems, etc. > > -pd > > > --089e0160bdbc2a6a7b051d149bf3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Like Fabrice, I also still process my email using the Gmai= l web interface. The only reason I want email within Emacs is so I can comp= ose replies in a proper editor with all my keybindings. I tried Chrome'= s Edit with Emacs, but it loses line breaks when it sends the output from E= macs back to Gmail. So I prefer to write replies within Emacs.

Since I only need a small fraction of my emails to go through Emacs,= I set up mbsync to pull only my starred messages:

<= div>Channel gmail-starred
Master :gmail-remote:"[Gmail]/Star= red"=C2=A0
Slave :gmail-local:starred
Create Both<= /div>
Expunge Both
SyncState *

If this is of interest to you I can share my setup.=C2=A0

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 a= t 8:23 AM, Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com> wrote:
Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau@supelec.fr> write= s:

> On this thread, I will report quite a different user experience.
> I have been a long time user of emacs and Gnus (Emacs since 1987).
> I have been using (ding) Gnus under Windows NT in the late 90's an= d up
> to about 2010.
>
> But now, I process my mail using the GMail browser interface.
> The reasons are mostly due to :
> - emacs is slow, chrome displays email more precisely and more quickly=
> - emacs is not multi-threaded, hence it may get stuck processing
> stuff.
> Using the browser to process mail allows me not to be disturbed when > I'm writing documents or programming using Emacs.
>
> I'll keep and eye on the solutions that have been reported here > though.

Interesting. I use a variety of email clients, mainly browser-based = ones (GMail, Fastmail), Thunderbird, and gnus. I keep gnus in
the arsenal for three main reasons:

1) I can do everything quickly without having to move my hands from the key= board. If there isn't already a shortcut for what I want,
I can add one.

2) I need a decent editor for replies. I have not found a browser-based cli= ent that has this.

3) To bring this somewhat back on topic, I've recently discovered org c= apture, and I love the fact that I can capture a note with a
link to a specific email message.

That last feature alone is reason enough for me.=C2=A0 FWIW, I'm on a M= ac, and I generally use Gnu emacs for editing, programming, etc.,
and use Aquamacs for running gnus. This avoids any latency problems, etc.
-pd



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