From: Peter Salazar <cycleofsong@gmail.com>
To: Ramon Diaz-Uriarte <rdiaz02@gmail.com>
Cc: Xebar Saram <zeltakc@gmail.com>, org mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] almost giving up on emacs email..looking for advice?
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 23:38:51 -0400 [thread overview]
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I also just installed notmuch, in addition to mu4e, and so far I quite like
notmuch. The interface so far is a little more intuitive (with mu4e, for
instance, I kept getting tripped up hitting "r" to reply to a message and
finding that it's bound to something else).
I did get offlineimap working, but I decided to switch to mbsync, which is
also working quite well. Let me know if you need pointers on setting it up.
On the topic of Emacs email, does anyone know how to set
message-citation-line-function so that replying doesn't quote/cite the
original message at all?
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Ramon Diaz-Uriarte <rdiaz02@gmail.com>
wrote:
> You have received several great answers already, but my 2 cents here.
>
> I've used mu4e with offlineimap[1] for about three years now, and I am
> reasonably happy with it. I particularly like the search capabilities
> (which I now often complement with helm-mu). Setting it up was not
> particularly hard (and how to configure for gmail was just a matter of
> following the documentation), and I do not recall experiencing any of the
> issues you mention (I had a few others, but they have disappeared over
> versions).
>
>
> Before that, I used wanderlust with offlineimap, and I also liked it a lot
> (I think I got this to work from emacs-fu, the blog of mu4e's
> author). Initial configuration wasn't really harder than mu4e (I think I
> quickly found how to configure gmail by googling around). In fact, if you
> are used to the gmail way of doing things, wanderlust might be more
> familiar; for example, placing the same email in several folders, or
> however you want to call them, or being shown the folder structure with
> options to collapse/expand easily. Now, I actually prefer mu4e's approach
> most of the time and don't care much about the folder structure (I search
> and find; no need to try to recall where I filed a message).
>
>
> Actually, to me, overall, wanderlust just seemed easier to use[2], and many
> of the defaults made a lot more sense to me (i.e., with wanderlust I had to
> google around less to find how to do what I wanted and I added less code to
> my .emacs). That said, I haven't made any serious change to my mu4e
> configuration in over two years, I think, so it is well amortized.
>
> I switched to mu4e because I was using wanderlust but searching for/within
> emails with mu so I figured I might just do the full switch; as well,
> development and activity around mu4e seemed, well, much more active.
>
>
>
> In terms of checking email with gmail from other devices (tablet, phone): I
> very rarely do so, but when I've needed to I've never had an issue while
> using wanderlust + offlineimap or mu4e + offlineimap. Things work the way I
> expect (changes in gmail if checked from my tablet show up in my computer
> and viceversa). Of course, checking email from multiple computers has no
> problems whatsoever.
>
>
> Finally, even if setting email with emacs was not a half hour thing, I am
> really glad I did so [3].
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> R.
>
>
>
> [1] Offlineimap is slow, and has other issues. I searched for alternatives
> two or three years ago, and did not find anything convincing (e.g., see
> this resignated summary http://blog.ezyang.com/2012/08/offlineimap-sucks/
> from a few years ago). After Titus' answer, I might give mbsync a try,
> since now encrypted passwords are supported, etc.
>
>
>
> [2] This is, of course, just my experience (or my incompetence). For
> example, with mu4e I had to search around to find how to get a reasonable
> way to add the date of the original message to the reply or forward but it
> worked just fine for me with wanderlust. I still struggle with address
> completion and blacklist in mu4e whereas address completion in wanderlust
> with BBDB always did exactly what I wanted. Or when I started using mu4e I
> missed a lot from wanderlust the C-c C-j that allows you to choose account
> to send from. In all fairness this is also available for mu4e
> (http://www.djcbsoftware.nl/code/mu/mu4e/Multiple-accounts.html) but
> requires you to add some extra code.
>
>
> [3] Why? I find the web interface of gmail slow to navigate, cumbersome,
> and bloated. I also used kmail which was, well, OK, but it was not the
> editor/environment I use for everything else (for a while, I used kmail but
> used emacsclient for email writing) and searching was not what it is with
> mu4e or helm-mu.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 06-08-2015, at 14:43, Xebar Saram <zeltakc@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi list
> >
> > I know this is a bit off topic but im desperately looking for some advice
> > regarding email through emacs.
> >
> > i have tried a bunch of them over the last month (gnus, mu4e, wanderlust,
> > rmail,mew and maybe other i forget).
> > I had various levels of success with each one to setup (it was never
> easy)
> > but i ended up sorta settling on mu4e. the problem is that mu4e never
> > managed to work properly for me (headers were not updating when new mail
> > arrived, reply was broken etc) so i had to give up
> >
> > What i want is basically pretty simple. an easy to setup email for emacs,
> > but one that would work tightly with gmail since i do a lot of mail
> > checking on the road via my cellphone.
> >
> > any advise. recommendations or setups that maybe people are willing to
> > share?
> >
> > thx so much in advance
> >
> > Z
>
> --
> Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
> Department of Biochemistry, Lab B-25
> Facultad de Medicina
> Universidad Autónoma de Madrid
> Arzobispo Morcillo, 4
> 28029 Madrid
> Spain
>
> Phone: +34-91-497-2412
>
> Email: rdiaz02@gmail.com
> ramon.diaz@iib.uam.es
>
> http://ligarto.org/rdiaz
>
>
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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-06 12:43 [OFF TOPIC] almost giving up on emacs email..looking for advice? Xebar Saram
2015-08-06 12:50 ` Peter Davis
2015-08-06 13:56 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-08-06 14:31 ` John Kitchin
2015-08-06 16:50 ` Titus von der Malsburg
2015-08-06 17:21 ` Xebar Saram
2015-08-06 20:45 ` Suvayu Ali
2015-08-06 15:59 ` Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
2015-08-06 23:51 ` Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
2015-08-08 3:38 ` Peter Salazar [this message]
2015-08-11 10:04 ` Fabrice Popineau
2015-08-11 12:23 ` Peter Davis
2015-08-11 12:30 ` Fabrice Popineau
2015-08-11 12:38 ` Rasmus
2015-08-11 12:35 ` Nicolas Richard
2015-08-11 13:20 ` Suvayu Ali
2015-08-11 13:53 ` Scott Randby
2015-08-11 14:16 ` Peter Davis
2015-08-11 14:38 ` Xebar Saram
2015-08-11 14:51 ` Scott Randby
2015-08-12 3:13 ` Peter Salazar
2015-08-12 4:30 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-08-12 8:34 ` Rasmus
2015-08-12 9:09 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-08-12 9:35 ` Rasmus
2015-08-12 13:36 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-08-12 22:42 ` Rasmus
2015-08-13 2:10 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2015-08-11 13:22 ` Matt Lundin
2015-08-15 7:37 ` Bastien Guerry
2015-08-15 12:35 ` Matt Lundin
2015-08-18 16:36 ` Bastien
2015-08-11 14:00 ` Gerald Wildgruber
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